<p>Hello, I'm an direct Admit student for Kelley. I don't think i have gotten any kind of information as to what courses should/will I be taking my freshman year, so i have no idea what to sign up for and what professors to look for. I know that i won't be taking the same courses as non direct admit students and i'm also exempt from the basic composition req. Any help on the courses that I should be taking my freshman year would greatly be appreciated. My orientation is on the 12th and 13th.</p>
<p>For professors, you can get an overview on ratemyprofessors.com. A better thing to look at is the grade distribution databases on the Registrar's website <a href="http://registrar.indiana.edu/%7Eregistra/gradedist.shtml%5B/url%5D">http://registrar.indiana.edu/~registra/gradedist.shtml</a>. This gives you average GPA of the class, and the average GPA of the students enrolled in the class. Make sure you compare the two. Sometimes a lot of smart kids will enroll in an honors class, only to find out that the class lowers their grades (i.e. the average GPA of the class is lower than the average GPA of the students enrolled in the class). You can find good professors this way. </p>
<p>You will be taking the same classes as non-direct admits. The I-Core prerequisites are the same for everyone. The only difference between being a DA and not is that you get your own advisor for the 300+ of you (which still stinks) and the you don't have to worry about getting into the school. You will also have more honors courses available to you, such as but that's about it. </p>
<p>If I could do my freshman year classes over again, I would have utilized the grade distribution much more, and I would have built my GPA up so I could get into the Honors College and then the Business Honors Program. If you get something like a 3.5-3.6, you have so many opportunities at IU. Knowing this, I would look at the grade distributions, and only sign up for classes where I had a chance for an A, when I had the option to. </p>
<p>There are many business classes where you don't have the prerequisites satisfied to sign up for. The only one's you can sign up for are below. Every other class you have an opportunity to sign up for will be a general education class:</p>
<p>BUS-X 104 Business Presentations (3 cr.)
BUS-X 204 Business Communications (3 cr.)
BUS-A 100 Business Accounting Skills (1 cr.)
BUS-K 201 The Computer in Business (3 cr.)
BUS-X 220 Career Perspectives (2 cr.)
BUS-G 202 Business and Economic Strategy in the Public Arena (2 cr.)
ECON-E 201 Introduction to Microeconomics (3 cr.)
MATH-M 118 Finite Mathematics (3 cr.)
MATH-M 119 Brief Survey of Calculus I (3 cr.) </p>
<p>I would hold off on the Math classes and the Economics classes. You could take them over the summer at your community college and transfer those credits over, or wait until you do well your freshman year, get into the honors college, and then take the honors version (easier grading). Econ and Math are typically the two hardest grading courses at IU. </p>
<p>When you go to Orientation, just write these classes down on your list that you show to an advisor (Note for others reading this - normally W131 would be included, and Business Communications wouldn't be included). In addition, you have to write down general education classes. As a Kelley student, you have 2 options - the Distribution and the Field Specialization option. What you would do then is find through that grade distribution database a subject you are interested in (say Geology, GEOL), then type it in, and all the geology classes will come up. You find the one with the highest average GPA, and that's the one you try and sign up for. </p>
<p>Some won't like this method, think it's sleezy and beating the system, and want to take classes that interest them. That's fine, but i'm warning you, taking Psychology or Criminal Justice may be fun, but it will likely be a B on your transcript, unless you are an excellent student.</p>
<p>Here's the recommendations i'd make for your first semester:</p>
<p>GEOL-G 103 Intro to Earth Science (N+M)
CMCL-C 122 Interpersonal Communication (S+H)
MUS-Z 103 Special Topics in Music for Nonmajors (A+H)
BUS-X 105 Honors Business Presentations
BUS-K 204 Honors Computers in Business
BUS-X 220 Career Perspectives</p>
<p>Signing up for those 6 classes gets you off to a 4.0 start without much effort, filling a lot of the prerequisites.</p>
<p>You will find out all about this at your orientation, but here's one optional schedule in addition to the one offered by A2Wolves above. (I'm leaving English Composition off since you said you don't need to take it).</p>
<p>Business G100 or G101 Business in the Information Age (or the Honors version of the same thing)</p>
<p>CMCL121 Public Speaking or Business X104 or X106 Business Presentations (or the Honors version of the same course)</p>
<p>MathM118 Finite Math or MathM119 Survey of Calculus or EconE201 Microeconomics (the first two of these also have honors versions)</p>
<p>2 general education classes--one in History or Sociology or Anthropology, one in Political Science or Psychology or Fine Arts/Telecommunications</p>
<p>Business A100 Basic Accounting Functions--this is a one-unit, 8-week course that you should try to take early in the semester so that you don't have to take the final when you have your other finals. You need to take this first semester if possible since it is a prerequisite for all the other accounting courses. Be aware, however, that this course is probably the toughest course you will take, even though it is only worth one unit. Check out Professor Tiller's ratings on ratemyprofessor.com to see why. Therefore if you want to build up the GPA, this might be one to wait and take later.</p>
<p>Also, if you decide to take EconE201 that course tends to be difficult at IU--even though you would expect it to be fairly easy.</p>
<p>That's 16 units--definitely a full load. Best of luck.</p>
<p>P.S. The course name on G202 (listed above by A2Wolves6) as Business and Economic Strategy in the Public Arena has changed. It is now called Corporate Social Strategy.</p>
<p>thanks Awolves and Calcruizer, You guys have been great. If you guys are still in IU next year, I would love to have a chance to meet up with you guys just for fun.</p>
<p>Calcruzer, I see no reason for him to take G100. The only people who take G100 are one's who substitute it for X100 and use it as a admission pre-requisite to Kelley. It is not a I-Core prerequisite and direct admits don't have to take the class.</p>
<p>also, I have taken AP calculus in highschool. I did not take the AP exam, but almost anything under the calculus level feels very easy for me. Should i take Finite math and brief survey of calculus my freshman year?</p>
<p>i can't seem to find course bus-x 105. I can only find the non-honors version of it.</p>
<p>It's X106. Finite Math and Calculus are typically hard classes to get an "A" in. If you are confident in your math ability then you are more likely to do well. If you were to take one, take M118, it's easier than M119 as evident by the grade distribution. I found M118 to be easy, I went to 7 classes out of the 51 and got a B in the class.</p>
<p>A2Wolves6--thanks for the catch--I meant to put X100 not G100, sorry.</p>
<p>X100 is Intro to Business (I don't know if they have an honors version of this, but I presume they do).</p>
<p>A2Wolves6 would know if this is required for Direct admits (I don't). I do know that the class is required for all people who are not already admitted to the Kelley school as freshmen.</p>
<p>Here are the approved substitutes for the I-core prerequisites (for direct admits only)
<a href="http://kelley.iu.edu/ugrad/da/approved.cfm%5B/url%5D">http://kelley.iu.edu/ugrad/da/approved.cfm</a></p>
<p>X100 is not a I-Core prerequisite or degree requirement either. It's pointless for a DA to take. However, for non-DAs, it's a popular class, because it's an easy A and a prerequisite for admission into Kelley through option A.</p>
<p>dude just be a Kelley adviser, I'm sure you can do a much better job than the ones we have now lol.</p>
<p>You know I actually do want to be a counselor, I think it would be an amazing career. Either high school or college. But that's more of after i'm done with sports and/or realize that I won't make anything in sports.</p>
<p>The Kelley advising is awful. They don't have a clue. I don't even meet with those advisors anymore because their advice is horrendous. I hate that stupid Kelley school. Every time I walk in that building I get an awful feeling in my stomach, one of fakeness and overly concerned with prestige. They don't care at all about who you are and just treat you as a number. If I was a business student I would have transferred out by now (to another school within IU, I don't hate IU, I hate the Kelley school), but thank goodness i'm in HPER.</p>
<p>wow, that advice was perfect but I have another question. I will be taking the IFS 3 credit philosohphy, film, and music class. That combined with AP credit and UCONN college credit, I should have one years worth of college credit before I actually enter freshman year, but all of it is general ed. Wolves and Calcruzer, since you two are such great advisors, could you guys help me plan a schedule and plan to graduate in three years? I'm a DA Hutton honors student with the English exemption, also would it help me if I got my status changed to a sophmore? thanks in advance!</p>
<p>I'd be glad to help, but I (and A2Wolves6) need to know what your major is.</p>
<p>thanks, calcruzer! My major will be Finance.</p>
<p>Hey,</p>
<p>These courses are proabably what I'm going to do. But the problem is that my orientation is pretty late... June 25/26. Do you think I can pick and choose teachers then, or will all these classes with the easy teachers be taken by then? I know that noone knows these things for sure, but based on past years can anyone tell me? </p>
<p>Thanks,</p>
<p>wait so can u choose your teachers during orientation?</p>
<p>And for those who have went, how was it? placement tests, etc.</p>
<p>i went on the june 13/14th orientation.
The first day we just took our placement tests and got to know things about the school, and got told what courses we should take for our majors. The 2nd day is when we meet our advisors and get our classes and IDs.
We could pick what courses we take and what time we take it. Sometimes it shows the teacher that is teaching that particular time slot or class, but most of the time it says "staff", so you don't know who's teaching you, like for M 119. Since i went to the first orientation date, i was able to pick from every single time slot, but i saw some of them filling up pretty quick, especially mid day math classes (no one signed up for 8:00am math). But there are so many courses to choose from, i'm sure you will be fine.
Some parts of the orientation is really boring, some of it unecessary, but some are fun. And staying at the dorm and making new friends is great.
I have to say the math placement test for me was a piece of cake, since i'm good at math, but the language placement test was another story. I was able to answer 5 out of 65 for my French test, but its also because i havent taken french for 2 years and i never liked French, nyhow, most of the class didn't give a crap about the language placement nyways (and it doesnt matter at all, since you get to choose what courses you take). Good luck on getting your courses and teachers.</p>
<p>S also was at orientation June 13th and 14th. Many thanks especially to A2Wolves and Calcruzer for their online advice. S was able to register for all of his first choices. Knowing about the course schedule website as well as the grade distribution site ahead of time was very helpful in building his schedule. He also was able to use the teacher recommendations posted to zero in on the best teachers -- for example, he made a point of signing up for Steve McKinley's M118 class.</p>
<p>S took the Spanish placement test and thought it was pretty easy, but he has completed AP spanish. He placed into HISP-275, Intro to Hispanic Culture. His advisor told him that he gets 4 credits based on his placement exam and, if he completes HISP 275 with at least a C, he can petition for an additional 6 credits. Does anyone know how the petition process works? </p>
<p>From a parent's perspective, it was very well organized. Some of the sessions were valuable (like the Bursar's) while others seemed like they were just babysitting us to keep us busy. This is our second child to go off to college so it is possible that first timers would find all of the sessions important.</p>
<p>Parking was very convenient, right across the street from the Wright Quad where things begin.</p>
<p>If you are looking for tshirts/sweatshirts, go to Steve and Barry's on Kirkwood just a couple of blocks west of the Sample gate. The prices are so much better than the IU Bookstore. 2 tshirts for $15.98, sweatshirts under $20, and the quality seems pretty good.</p>
<p>Finally, a word of advice to those who need hotel rooms for move in on 8/23rd. Almost everywhere is already booked. Most places have a 2 night minimum, but some like the Hampton have a 4 night minimum. They cater to those who are coming from very long distances. If you haven't made your reservations yet, now is the time!</p>
<p>I should add - don't sleep in the dorms while you're there. The air conditioned hotel room is a much nicer night's sleep than a uncomfortable dorm mattress. You also have many appliances in a hotel room. I wanted to do a dorm and "meet people" but it's really not worth it. You'll forget everyone in your orientation group 2-3 days after orientation.</p>