<p>So i dont have the stats to get into Kelley directly as a freshman. But, I still want to go to IU because of Kelley and the fact that I can apply after my freshman year in college into the program.</p>
<p>How hard is it to get into Kelley as a non-direct? Do most students take this route? Does it put you at a disadvantage? Is it worth coming to Bloomington and IU all the way from Southern California?</p>
<p>Any sort of comments would are greatly appreciated!</p>
<p>It is not too hard. The key is to keep your GPA up. You will be almost guarenteed a spot in Kelley after freshman year if:</p>
<p>Your overall GPA is a 3.3+ </p>
<p>You get no lower than a B in BUS-K 201, ECON-E 201, BUS-A 100, MATH-M 118/119, and BUS-X 104. You do not need to take all these courses freshman year, but whichever ones you take you should do well in.</p>
<p>If your GPA is between a 3.0-3.3 after freshman year you will be a borderline applicant. If you are a borderline applicant, then joing a couple clubs that would look good on a resume would help.</p>
<p>More than half the students in Kelley are admitted after freshman year, so you are definately with the majority. Also, people who are in Keley have to pay $500 more a semester, so you actually save $1000 by not being a direct admit. </p>
<p>The disadvantage is that you might not get in.</p>
<p>They look at all your classes when considering admission (like Maxcellis said, you need about a 3.3+ first year to guarantee admission), however, the other classes they look at closely (besides the ones Maxcellis mentions above) when deciding admission to Kelley are ENGL W131 (English Composition) and BUS X-100 (or the equivalent course BUS G-100).</p>
<p>Go to this website of the Kelley School of Business:</p>
<p>[Future</a> IU Freshmen: Admissions: Undergraduate Program: Kelley School of Business: Indiana University Bloomington](<a href=“Undergraduate | Bachelor's Degree in Business | Indiana Kelley”>Undergraduate | Bachelor's Degree in Business | Indiana Kelley)</p>
<p>and scroll down to the section entitled “Standard Admission”</p>
<p>Note that they also suggest that you have no "W"s in your coursework–meaning you need to work extra hard in BUS A-100 when you take it (since about half the people who take this 1 unit class take a “W” in it).</p>
<p>Thanks for the link, helped out a bunch! Are either of you current IU students or alumni?</p>
<p>I recently was accepted to IU as well and am in the same position as halopower. Would I have a disadvantage by transferring after freshman year? If so, how much?</p>
<p>Thanks,
Ivan</p>
<p>Edit:
I saw these criteria on the website:</p>
<ul>
<li>Admitted to IU Bloomington and indicated business as your intended major</li>
<li>ACT composite score of 29 or SAT composite of 1270 (including only math and critical reading sections)</li>
<li>Top 10 percent of high school class or 3.7 GPA (on a 4.0 scale)</li>
</ul>
<p>I didn’t indicate business as my major, but I did get a 29 ACT and a SAT of 1310. I don’t have a 3.7 GPA however.</p>
<p>halopower015, here is a post from early this year on the requirements to get into Kelley. The main point is to get B’s (not B-, and certainly no C or C+) in ALL of the admissions courses. Given this, I would stay away from M118 Finite Math and take M119 calculus instead, as I think it is easier to get a B in that class. If not a direct admit, I would not take finite math until AFTER getting into Kelley, or maybe take it at a cc during the summer after your freshman year while you are waiting for the admissions decision to be made.</p>
<p>ivanpk, this post also stresses the importance of your first semester at IU if you are a transfer student.</p>
<p>Also, here is a thread involving someone with a 3.5 gpa who did not get B or higher in all of the admissions classes, and was therefore not granted regular admission.
<a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/indiana-university-bloomington/537882-kelley-standard-admission-decisions.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/indiana-university-bloomington/537882-kelley-standard-admission-decisions.html</a></p>
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<p>I actually work for the Kelley School . . . </p>
<p>Let me establish with this post that overall GPA does not matter at all for standard admission. Rather, grades in each individual course should be B or above to ensure automatic admission. Any course grade below B puts a student at high risk for denial, and the admissions committee will review your application to determine if the lower grade provides sufficient justification for a denial decision.</p>
<p>Admissions standards are being more strictly enforced than ever before. For Spring 2009 standard admit applicants, only 53% attained successful admission to Kelley. Students with even one low grade (i.e. B- or below) in an admissions course (M118, M119, W131, K201) were considered high risk, and many were not admitted. Some students with overall GPAs of 3.2-3.4 were denied admission because of poor performance in one or more admissions courses. A grade of C in a math course, for example, could result in a denial decision.</p>
<p>As a transfer student with your particular scenario, your grade trend will matter more than anything. Your first semester in residence at IUB will matter immensely, as the committee will want to see how you perform in courses taken at Kelley. The grade of C in macro may be offset by your strong performance, but if your grades in courses taken at Kelley are not solidly B or above, you will be at considerably higher risk for denial.</p>
<p>I highly recommend that you speak with an admissions counselor at Kelley and discuss your particular situation. . . </p>
<h2>Again, contributors here need to pay attention to what has changed at Kelley. Standard admission requirements no longer include an overall GPA, so if you have a 3.2 and think you’re going to get in, don’t count on it. It’s all about course grades now. Every single grade must be B or above (no B- grades) for automatic admission. Any single course grade below B puts you at high risk for getting turned down. Based on conversations I’ve had with the admissions staff, some students with one B- did not get accepted recently. Because of so much focus on individual grades, the acceptance rate dropped this spring to around 50%.</h2>
<p>Can a non-direct admit still take the I-Core prerequisites if they are a finance major? If so, when do they transfer to the Kelley School of Business? Do I apply after freshman year or after first semester?</p>
<p>I got a question, too.</p>
<p>Okay, I’m applying as a Freshman in mid-Janurary so my mid-year GPA is on the transcript. It’ll hopefully be about a 3.68-3.69 weighted, and about 3.64 unweighted, on a traditional 4-point scale.</p>
<p>I know that Kelley seems to like 3.7 as a cut-off, but I beat their ACT by 2 points: I have a 32. Can I be a direct admit to Kelley business?</p>
<p>You wont be an automatic direct admit, but if you petition for direct admit there is ~97% chance you will get in.</p>
<p>^Thanks. That’s nice to know :)</p>
<p>indycarkid,</p>
<p>Not only can you take the I-Core prerequisites, but if you are a finance major, the people at the Kelley school expect you to start taking some of them. As far as the application for admission to the Kelley school, you can apply anytime you meet the requirements (26 units, 3 of 4 required courses completed). The application can be found on the Kelley School of Business website–but will only be posted during specified times. </p>
<p>[Future</a> IU Freshmen: Admissions: Undergraduate Program: Kelley School of Business: Indiana University Bloomington](<a href=“Undergraduate | Bachelor's Degree in Business | Indiana Kelley”>Undergraduate | Bachelor's Degree in Business | Indiana Kelley)</p>
<p>halopower015,</p>
<p>I am not a current student, but my son is. (He’s a senior in the Kelley School of Business.)------And I’m sorry for the late reply to your question, but I’ve been on holiday vacation with my family (including my son) in New York City since mid-December.</p>
<p>No problem at all. thanks so much for the information. It really cleared everything up.</p>
<p>Quick question about the housing at IUB. When you complete everything for the RPS, it says complete. Does this mean my application was submitted or do I need to take further action?</p>
<p>^^^^I seem to recall that you need to send a deposit in with housing application.</p>
<p>I already did. It says complete so am i done?</p>
<p>Sending in my petition today, wish me luck! :)</p>
<p>Hi,</p>
<p>I’m admitted as a transfer student to the university division, but not a direct admit. I’m so frustrated as I have no idea how it would affect my college studies. I’ve already taken 4 semesters in my current college, though not full load, and I guess I’ve completed most of the pre-requisites. If I attend, do I still need 2 semesters before getting into Kelley?? Means I have only one more year to study at Kelley, which is bad. Or it might be 2 more years at kelley. </p>
<p>As a transfer student, would I receive a letter later telling me I’m direct admitted. But the email I receive state that I’m admitted to the University division.</p>
<p>What will your major be, and are you starting in the fall/</p>
<p>Your questions are hard to answer without more info. I know that transfer students cannot go directly into Kelley. Almost alll of them have to take K201 and X202 in consecutive semesters before they can do icore.</p>
<p>If you start in the fall, you will probably have to take K201 and then X202 in the Spring. In other words, you won’t be elibigle for Icore until summer 2011 (if you are going to summer school) or Fall 2011.</p>
<p>If you are a fianance major, you won’t be allowed to take hardly any finance classes until after Icore. Accounting majors can take upper-level accounting classes as soon as they get A201 and A202 out of the way. So, your major will have a big impact on how quickly you can finish. And you really need to look at how many credits you have and how they apply to Kelley degree requirements. The number of semesters you have is irrelevant, only the number of hours and the requirements they fulfill are important.</p>
<p>“I guess I’ve completed most of the pre-requisites.”</p>
<p>I would be sure which prerequisites were complete and will transfer to Kelley before going to IU.</p>
<p>[Kelly</a> School of Business Undergraduate 2008-2010 Online Bulletin: Table of Contents](<a href=“http://www.indiana.edu/~bulletin/iub/business/2008-2010/index.shtml]Kelly”>http://www.indiana.edu/~bulletin/iub/business/2008-2010/index.shtml)
[Credit</a> Transfer Service: Admissions: Indiana University](<a href=“http://cts.admissions.indiana.edu/]Credit”>http://cts.admissions.indiana.edu/)</p>
<p>As a direct admit, it was significantly easier during my freshman / sophomore year, since there were no “weed out” courses, except A100, due to direct admits being able to take the honors version of the course.</p>
<p>K201 is definitely not a blow off course and if you are a direct admit, i advise to sign up for an early orientation to be able to sign up for those honors courses. Its a huge benefit, and provides a good buffer GPA before ICORE.</p>
<p>Do you recommend the honors version of A100? I seem to have read a lot of horror stories about A100.</p>