<p>I know nothing. </p>
<p>If it looks good to you just give it a shot. Prestige doesn’t really matter in these programs, because its about doing something you love and being around people who love it. </p>
<p>The only reason you shouldn’t apply is if it’s a joke of a program. EG Kids sign up for it for college apps, because mommy and daddy want them out of the house, etc. </p>
<p>If you can pay or they have good FA give it a shot. </p>
<p>You can always email and ask acceptance rates and what not if you want to know your chances or if it’s a joke program.</p>
<p>For those of you who have been to the summer programs at both Iowa and Kenyon, which did you prefer and why? What’s the best feature of each program?</p>
<p>I just got my letter from Iowa today–accepted, Session 1! I’m so happy!</p>
<p>In for Iowa, Session 2.</p>
<p>where are you two from? (fashioncapital and percyshelley). i’m getting a little nervous because mine hasn’t come in the mail yet. (i’m from nj)</p>
<p>I’m from Central Jersey. :)</p>
<p>damn. i’m definitely rejected. haha</p>
<p>do you think they send all the acceptances out together and then all the rejections? so the rejections will probably arrive tomorrow?</p>
<p>Not sure–they probably send out all the letters at once. I think it depends where you live in NJ, honestly.</p>
<p>I’m in Idaho. My rejection shouldn’t be in until Wednesday.</p>
<p>True, that would make more sense. I’m keeping my fingers crossed for everyone! I’m going to try and stay positive because, honestly, what is the point of upsetting myself before the official letter comes in. Good luck to you musicallylatin, you never know what will happen</p>
<p>I’m from Philadelphia. For others who’ve gotten they’re letters: what looks interesting to you on the course list?</p>
<p>My son was accepted by Iowa, Kenyon, and UVA. Which should he choose, and why?</p>
<p>^ From someone who has no experience with any of the three programs except for extensive web browsing: my workshop-gut says Iowa. Their website is refreshingly bad (in design), cost is reasonable, and I’m definitely a fan of genre-separated workshops (which tend to attract the more serious students further along in maturity).</p>
<p>Iowa or Kenyon. But I’d suggest Iowa more. It boasts the nation’s leading MFA program in Creative Writing, which gives its creative writing department a good repuatation. Not that I’m sure who the faculty for the program will be exactly–that I’m not, but the program is pretty stellar, and I’ve heard from quite a few people who have attended and enjoyed it tremendously :)</p>
<p>anyone know the difference between these two or why Kenyon is so much more expensive?</p>
<p>Kenyon is a private school; cost of the Iowa program is defrayed by the good taxpayers of Iowa.</p>
<p>For all those in the same situation as I am, here’s a few words from my high school’s creative writing teacher, </p>
<p>“May I suggest piling your rejection letters somewhere, and just keep trucking until someone recognizes your will and talent. Persistence is an important virtue in this world of struggle”</p>
<p>I got this poem in my English poem/shot story packet today, and think it’s well fitting for here,</p>
<p>For the Young who Want To
By Marge Piercy</p>
<p>Talent is what they say
you have after the novel
is published and favorably
reviewed. Beforehand what
you have is a tedious
delusion, a hobby like knitting.</p>
<p>Work is what you have done
after the play is produced
and the audience claps.
before that friends keep asking
when you are planning to
out and get a job.</p>
<p>Genius is what they know you
had after the third volume
of remarkable poems. Earlier,
they accuse you of withdrawing,
ask you why you don’t have a baby,
Call you a bum,
The reason people with M.F.A.'s
take workshops with fancy names
When all they can really
learn is a few techniques,
Typing instructons and some-
body else’s mannerisms</p>
<p>Is that every artist lacks
A licenses to hang on the wall
Like your optician, your vet
Proving you may be a clumsy sadist
Whose fillings fall into the stew-
but you’re certified dentist.</p>
<p>The real writer is one
Who really writes. Talent
is an invention like phologiston
After the fact of fire.
Work is its own cure. You have to like it
better than being loved.</p>
<p>musicallylatin: Did you check out the Sewanee program? I thought that it looked quite strong. They are still accepting applications, and because their response date was after the deadline for accepting many of the other programs, it could be that they still have many spaces open. Just a thought.</p>