Criminology, completely useless?

<p>Beast, I have a question if you don’t mind answering it…</p>

<p>I am curious if one could obtain work as an agent in the FBI with a degree in Music Performance or Music Education. </p>

<p>My cousin has it in his mind that the best way to get into the FBI is to obtain a CJ degree, I have not had the chance to speak with him about this, but his real love and what our family wishes he would pursue is music ( performance and education). I want him to be able to do what he loves while in college and still obtain the career he wants after.</p>

<p>Is this at all probable, and if so then how likely is it?</p>

<h2>Thank you man. ~ Magnetic</h2>

<p>Ignore my previous post.</p>

<p>All you need to know is that it would be stupid and a waste of time/money. CJ isn’t that much better.</p>

<p>Hey man</p>

<p>I was reading through you’re messages that were posted in 2010. I am pretty much in the same situation as you where back then. I am currently living in Ireland and have just completed a degree in Criminology and Criminal Justice. I am currently applying for a Canadian Visa and i am interested in trying to use my degree over there however after reading the responses that you got i am now very skeptical if this can be done. I would prepared to work in most posts in relation to criminology. I was just wondering how things worked out for you and if you had any advice for me it would be greatly appreciated. I’m hoping you still use this.</p>

<p>I look forward to hearing from you.
Kyle</p>

<p>BIGeastBEAST would be interested to talk to you. Born US citizen, I graduated with bachelors in criminal justice in 2011. I am currently working for TSA, took the job as a stepping stone, but its been 7 months. Yesterday I took the asvab for ANG and scored a 95. Was looking at going Intel to better my odds of getting a fed job when I get out. Would ANG be the right step or are there better options? Any insight is appreciated.</p>

<p>*** THIS POST IS WRITTEN BY A CANADIAN CRIMINOLOGY GRADUATE NOT AN AMERICAN ONE. Also my recommendation for which courses you should take is primarily concerned with students who wish to establish their careers in the Criminal Justice System or in jobs related to the social sciences and research******</p>

<p>I graduated as a crim major and I am employed as a Criminal Intelligence Analyst. </p>

<p>Experience has shown me that the criminology undergraduate degree generally prepares you for employment in the Criminal Justice Field with the following job prospects </p>

<p>Police Officer
Peace Officer
Correctional Officer
Probation Officer
Loss Prevention Officer/Investigator
Working at Drug Courts
Intelligence Officer and other Jobs at CSIS
Border Officer
Working at a Security & Investigation unit for a bank.
Fraud Analyst
Civilian Law Enforcement Careers (Working in the Evidence room, Forensics’ Technician)
and of course Criminal Intelligence Analyst </p>

<p>Other jobs related to the crim major is to do research in the criminal justice system for the Federal or, more likely, the Provincial governments. Jobs are typically listed as;</p>

<p>Research Analysts
Research Assistants
(Please check out your provincial job board as there may be jobs that may have a different job title attached to it) </p>

<p>These research jobs may require you to have a graduate degree in Criminology. So I advise if you love to do research in criminology and want to get paid to do it, you will typically need a graduate degree to be competitive in the job selection process. </p>

<p>*******A word of advice to all potential University Students: THERE IS NO USELESS DEGREE ONLY USELESS PROGRAMS AND IGNORANT STUDENTS. Every major has a set of skills that is needed for society to function and skills that are marketable. It is your job to find out which skills you both want and need to do the job that you want and to have the career that you want. So rather than simply selecting theoretical courses, select courses that will help improve your skillset in your chosen field. I recommend everyone taking the following classes to improve your chances of not only getting a job in the Criminal Justice system but to improve your chances of getting promoted in your CJ job and to make yourself marketable for other jobs in case you don’t want to work in the Criminal Justice field any longer when you graduate. </p>

<ul>
<li>Two to four English courses. (Write as many papers as you can, edit as many papers as you can and analyze as much pieces of literature as you can. Classes like these will help build your Critical thinking skills which is the most marketable to have next to technical skills)<br></li>
<li>Introductory Statistics </li>
<li>Intermediate Statistics (Not Required but recommended) </li>
<li>Introductory Computer Science (Master Microsoft Office!!!)</li>
<li>Criminology</li>
<li>Criminal Justice in Canada</li>
<li>Quantitative Methods</li>
<li>Qualitative Methods</li>
<li>Data management or data analytics classes. (Only if they are offered but not required). </li>
<li>Introductory Econometrics (Not required, but highly highly recommended if you have the perquisites to do it. TRUST ME!)</li>
</ul>

<p>Master, or just have a good familiarity, of the following computer programs in your undergraduate study or in your spare time</p>

<p>SPSS
SAS
STATA
(Great thing about these programs is that if you master one its very easy to learn another one). </p>

<p>If the program doesn’t have some or all of the classes listed, especially Research Methods, Statistics, and Computer classes RUN. RUN TO A UNIVERSITY THAT DOES!</p>

<p>Most Importantly is LIST THE COURSES THAT ARE RELEVANT TO THE JOB POSITION, THAT YOU HAVE TAKEN IN UNIVERSITY, ON YOUR RESUME! Sorry for using caps lock but I cannot stress this enough. For all the employer knows you slacked off in University and took a bunch of courses that have no relation to your job. By stating in your resume that “Yeah I know my way around Microsoft office” Or 'Yeah I know what a variable is and how to measure Data and clean it up," that makes you so much more competitive than most of the applicants for the job. </p>

<p>But beyond course work is Internships and Undergraduate Thesis’s which I think is the most important thing that you can do at University. That’s how I got my job. </p>

<p>Good luck everyone</p>

<p>Hi everybody! I had a couple of questions pertaining to the Criminology field. I have a BS in Criminology and was considering getting my masters if necessary. I have 10 years of work experience in juvenile/mental heath field. I am very interested in becoming a detective. I understand that I will have to work my way up through the ranks first but that is not a problem. I am currently applying at a police department. My questions are: Will I need a masters degree to help me move up through the rankings faster? Will it raise my pay scale? Does it matter if Im a minority or not?</p>

<p>At this point it would be better to have started a new thread. </p>

<p>I’m a retired detective sergeant. Way back when I was hired I received $600 more per year for a B.S. Now they expect you to have a degree or military experience. I have no idea whether the department you are applying to gives hiring points for minority status. I do know many departments greatly want Asian and Hispanic candidates. Every P.D. has different procedures for rank advancement. If you join a large police department as a patrol officer you can count on about three years before you are eligible for a detective position. In your case, though, they would probably be thrilled to have you in Youth Services/Juvenile Division. You should express great enthusiasm for it as it’s a great “hook” you have. If you join a small town police department there is less need for detectives or investigators and I would expect many years in patrol. If I were starting out now I would look for a large department in a major city with lots of crime. Consider that state police do mostly traffic work, suburban departments too. You can work on your masters after you are hired. My department paid 2/3 of my tuition. Rather than working on a masters now I would urge you to get in great physical shape; lift weights and run. Get your eyes checked to make sure you’ll pass the eye exam. Be completely truthful on all your application materials. Don’t get into debt and make sure your driving record is good. Consider applying to more than one police department. It takes about six months for all the background paper work to be completed on their end and you may end up in a “pool” of eligible candidates until positions are funded. Sorry if this is disjointed. I was interrupted 25 times writing it. Good luck.</p>

<p>Thank you for your response. I am applying in St. Louis MO, it is my hometown and it has a high crime rate. I have no problem with with getting into shape. Im a former college/pro athlete. I already have an application out for the city department and completed and passed all of the tests that included the aptitude, physical fitness, and the oral board. I will submit one for the county soon. We have 90 counties in St. Louis so I figured I would have a good chance. I am truthful on my applications, have a good driving record, and have no outstanding debt that is not being paid on every month. Im just trying to make sure that I am on the right track. If there is any other advice you can tell me, I would greatly appreciate it! This is my first time using one of these forums, that is why I created my initial thread wrong.</p>