<p>I’m hoping to apply ED to Columbia next year. All my stats aren’t in yet, but I’ll give a rough pprediction. Thanks to everyone who replies! </p>
<p>Gender: Female
Ethnicity: Asian
State: Washington
School: medium sized public school, most students end up going to state universities</p>
<p>Unweighted GPA: 3.84
Class rank: top 10% (about 300 in class)
SAT I: taking in March, aiming for 2250+
SAT IIs: 730 US History, taking other two later (aiming for 800 in math and 740+ on biology)
ACT: 32 (expecting to go up on June test)</p>
<p>APs: 4 - World History, 5 - US History, 5 - English Language, 5 - Calculus AB
(aiming for all 5s on Biology, Calculus BC and English Literature this year)</p>
<p>By the end of this year, I will have my FULL IB DIPLOMA. I am in this gifted program, allowing students to start their IB program a year early. Additionally, next year I will taking English and Social Science classes from the University of Washington. Since I will be done with my IB diploma this year, I am expecting to find an internship to do through the summer and senior year.</p>
<p>ECs:
DECA (11-12) - 2 years/2 years as president, founder
2nd place at Area, aiming for top 10 at the state competition in March</p>
<li><p>National Honor Society (10-12) - 3 years/2 years as co-president</p></li>
<li><p>Drill team (10-12) - 3 years/1 year as lieutenant</p></li>
<li><p>state qualifier in individual drill downs</p></li>
<li><p>Junior class secretary</p></li>
<li><p>Volunteer - 150+ hours at local hospital gift shop</p></li>
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<p>*Expecting great teacher and counselor recommendations, and personal essay</p>
<p>Hello there, nice to see another WA stater. I’m from Seattle, got in ED this year. On paper, your ECs, scores, and GPA are fine for Columbia standards but if you want to increase your chances, think about your positioning effort. Basically, this means ‘how am I going to package my entire application in a way that makes sense and brings out my passions’. The essay naturally plays a big role in this. Anyway, good luck and feel free to PM me w/ any questions.</p>
<p>I had very similar stats and I was rejected for ED Columbia. However, my school did not offer IB programs and having that on your resume obviously helps. Your EC’s are also very impressive so I’d say you have around a 50% chance for Columbia College and perhaps a little higher for Fu. Good luck!</p>
<p>I got in ED with a similar gpa and only slightly higher test scores (though last year at this time my test scores looked a lot like yours…). Work to convey your passion in the short answers and personal statement and you should have a good shot.</p>
<p>“Your EC’s are also very impressive so I’d say you have around a 50% chance for Columbia College and perhaps a little higher for Fu.”</p>
<p>This is BS, don’t throw out random statistics, they’re misleading.</p>
<p>The OP’s stats are good but more or less average for Columbia. What matters, as the beef said, is the packaging. Also, I’d suggest you re post your stats at a later date to re evaluate–too many test score hypotheticals here.</p>
<p>This really annoys me, your aspirations are meaningless to your chances, everyone aims for the stars, no-one should have to post chances for an imaginary profile, you have a friggin year to go before you apply, what difference does it make whether you’re chanced now or in 6 months, when you’ll have hard info. </p>
<p>get that 2250 first and get like 40+/45 in the IB diploma then you have a fairly decent shot. your ECs don’t seem to show any deep passion, you seem to have volunteered for resume padding. At this stage assuming you write an average essay, get good recs, and make half those predictions, you have a very average chance of acceptance ED perhaps ~25% at both CC and seas, seas is not easier to get into. I think you’re most likely to be deferred, nothing blows me away.</p>
<p>You’ll need to compensate a bit for the GPA/class rank. Wondering why you don’t take more SAT II tests, AP courses and at least one sport. That’s where you are weakest. Of course, not knowing SAT score is big question mark.</p>
<p>From the information you’ve given us, you don’t look very interesting. What makes you stand out? The good part is you have a year to find something.</p>
<p>This is a very formulaic approach and wouldn’t do anything for you. More SAT II tests are absolutely useless. two 800s are better than five 750s everywhere (except places which require three). Douzens of APs too, hardly show anything, as long as you have a few (4-6) APs and have 4s and 5s in them, you’ve met the threshold. Qual over quant always, and with APs there’s highly diminishing returns to taking more and more.</p>
<p>Sports are extremely far from a pre-requisite for Columbia. No university specifically looks for something as arbitrary as sports on an app, it makes no difference whatsoever. Do whatever you like extra-curricularly and do it with passion, involvement and achievement. Moreover, Columbia would care less about sports than its peers, who don’t give it special attention over others extra-curriculars unless you’ll play for a varsity team.</p>
<p>Jameschen, evaluations of apps are always multi-dimensional; successful applications assume a variety of directions. I’m really surprised that you, as an admissions consultant (were you lying before?), misunderstand the evaluation process at such a basic level.</p>
<p>So, she must convince white admissions directors that she’s not “like a thousand other Koreans [or Chinese, etc.] yet another textureless math grind”. Quote is from Marillee Jones, ex-Admissions Director at MIT. In order to get in, Hauterfly has to meet a higher standard. Thus:</p>
<p>Purpose of additional SAT II - To show interest and competency in non-technical academic subjects beyond the usual Asian classroom strengths (foreign language, for example)</p>
<p>Purpose of AP Exams - To show rigorous academic preparation beyond the typical Columbia applicant by tackling every academic challenge within reason</p>
<p>Purpose of sports - To display talent and dedication in non-academic field where Asian students are traditionally underrepresented</p>
<p>And of course, you will have to “seal the deal” with your application and essays. That’s where you’ll discuss your “passion” and “dedication” towards your life’s goals and other interests.</p>
<p>There’s a reason why on decision and “chance me” threads you typically see either a sad face or the words “anti-hook” for those candidates who state their Ethnicity or Race as “Asian”. And its not because we’re going to have Chinese or Korean food for dinner tonight for the 300th night in a row, instead of meatloaf (although I personally prefer Italian food).</p>
<p>Most of us complain about the Asian quotas a bit, but accept it as a facet of the college admissions process that we can’t change. We just go through the process knowing that we have to try a little harder, and be prepared for rejection a bit more than most of you. But hey, that’s what happens when you don’t get to make the rules.</p>
<p>My admissions advice to Hauterfly is a relection of that reality, and you are free to ignore it unless you are white but still willing to check the “Asian” box on your graduate school applications.</p>
<p>I’m sorry james, but you still make no sense. I am not in any way denying that asians have to meet a higher standard to get in, but you have misconstrued the evaluation process, higher standards does not equal specific formula to admissions, your advice is still irrelevant and sometimes useless.</p>
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<p>taking a one hour test is no way to show commitment to non-tech academic subjects. Columbia again has no formula for what subjects asians should and should not take. They just want to see a balance, they give the SAT II very little weightage if you have 700+ they’ll hardly care. they definitely don’t care how many you take above two, any current student or recent alum can attest to this.</p>
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<p>if anything this is a very asian mentality, you need to stop focusing on stuff that is easily quantifiable. Columbia especially makes very subjective admissions decisions based on more nebulous criteria like passion and devotion to your intellectual and extra-curricular pursuits. Just because you can put a number to it doesn’t give it extra weightage in admissions - i’m saying this as an engineer.</p>
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<p>this too doesn’t follow. Asians are underrepresented on sports teams, the op hasn’t played a sport and has no shot at being recruited on a varsity team, in this case she wouldn’t do anything for ‘asian under-representation’ problem. Sports will be seen as any other extra-curricular and starting involvment now is dumb as rocks, she should delve into what she’s actually interested in.</p>
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<p>this is not relevant -math and science are not the only fields the op is involved in, she’s done history and english. She isn’t stellar but is by no means textureless.</p>
<p>just by being in one sport does not really show talent and dedication. People just want to do it to pad their resume. Some sports like cross country, track, maybe even some football teams accept almost anyone. Confidentialcoll makes some very valid points.</p>