<p>Well, there is no specified Pre-Law program at Penn, but there are philosophy courses on bioethics (in fact, one is titled, “Bioethics”), animal ethics and upper level logical reasoning with a focus on ethics. You also can take Legal Studies classes, which are through Wharton. They will give you exposure to (mainly American) law with an eye toward business situations – LGST101 focuses on civil lawsuits, LGST210 focuses on American business ethics, LGST220 focuses on American international business ethics. The list goes on. Many of the courses are EXCELLENT, too!</p>
<p>What Asians are most common at Penn?</p>
<p>And the Vietnamese students. Are there many of them? :)</p>
<p>Chinese Male (living in HK)
Lived in London for 3 years
Not Applying for Financial Aid </p>
<p>Projected Cumulative GPA (Unweighted) 4.0/4.0</p>
<p>SATs: 2100-2300 (Depending on how much I prep, probably 2200+ if I invest time)</p>
<p>APs (All 5s):
Microeconomics
Macroeconomics
US Government and Politics
Comparative Government and Politics </p>
<p>Calculus BC
Statistics</p>
<p>Biology
Chemistry
Physics B</p>
<p>Chinese Language and Culture</p>
<p>Senior Year APs:
Physics C
Environmental Science
Psychology</p>
<p>Self Study: Multivariable Calculus</p>
<p>Should I self-study APES and AP Psychology and take AP World and AP Human Geo even though I may not get an A in AP World? Should I take AP English if I know I will not get an A or a 5 on the AP Exam?</p>
<p>ECs:
Math and Science Center (Leader - 2 Years)
TA</p>
<p>Sports:
Tennis (Recreational - Twice a week)</p>
<p>Music:
Piano (10 years…dropped Freshman year - Should I include this and just say 10 years?)
Violin (3 years…dropped Freshman year - Should i include this and just say 3 years?)</p>
<p>Service:
NHS
Cheshire Home - Elderly Home for the Disable (Hong Kong Hospital Authority) (Leader)
Z Club (Director - 2 Years)
UNICEF
Heifer (Leader - 1 Year)
Interim (One week long school service trips - incl. India and South Africa)
Teach Elementary School Students English (Bring a class of Freshman) (Leader - 4 years)</p>
<p>Job Experience:
Kumon Instructor (After I completed the program in Freshman year) of English and Mathematics - Twice a week for 3-4 hours each time</p>
<p>Internship:
Summer after Junior year</p>
<p>Awards:
COMAP High School Contest in Mathematical Modeling (National Outstanding)
Mathematics Department Award
Science Department Award
Bausch Lomb Award (Possibly - Partial Scholarship for Rochester University)
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute Award (“”)</p>
<p>AIME…75th Percentile</p>
<p>I think my ECs and awards are VERY weak for top colleges. </p>
<p>What are my chances to Wharton and SEAS? ED? RD?
Where would I place percentile-wise amongst the students accepted to Wharton and SEAS?</p>
<p>@prinki94</p>
<p>No, Stanford’s campus is prettier/nicer.</p>
<p>@Savant12</p>
<p>When you say Asians, I interpret that as being East / Southeast Asians. In that case, Chinese, Indians, Koreans. With the first two more than the last one.</p>
<p>There is an okay number of Vietnamese students.</p>
<p>I am interested in Pharmacy or being a doctor and would like to apply to UPenn. Which school (CAS, SEAS) should I apply to and what major should I choose? I plan to ED by the way. </p>
<p>Also, can I take business courses like accounting in Wharton even without Dual programs like Huntsman?</p>
<p>@Arsnl4vr, I think you have a great chance at SEAS. Did I overlook it? I cant find your subject tests</p>
<p>I currently have an 800 in SAT II Bio. I am looking to take Math IIC, Physics and Chemistry after the respective AP courses, so I am confident I will get an 800. SAT-wise, I have time to and will prepare. However, I am worried about my extracurriculars. How are my chances for regular decision considering that I am unhooked and international. Also, how is Penn SEAS compared to Columbia SEAS, Cornell, Stanford, Caltech and MIT? What majors is Penn SEAS known for?</p>
<p>Whartonite, thank you so much for you help.</p>
<p>I am torn between applying to CAS and Wharton. I feel as if Wharton would be the best bet for a finance career, but I have a much higher chance at CAS. I am an Asian male, 2350 sat, 3 750-plus sat 2s (only a 770 in math 2 though), and a nationally award winning vocalist for Indian classical music.</p>
<p>I do debate, Latin club, have leadership, and have published financial articles for a small international magazine.</p>
<p>I haven’t started a business, been active in FBLA, or participated in economics/finance competitions though.</p>
<p>If I do get into CAS, can I still build a career in finance later on? I don’t want to cut potential opportunities by enrolling in the CAS undergrad economics program, since Wharton grads are nearly always first-picks for job openings.</p>
<p>Thanks a lot.</p>
<p>@powerfuldog – Naturally, everyone statistically has a better chance at SAS, but that doesn’t mean you, as an individual, will have better luck at one school or another. You seem to have the stats and ECs for both Wharton and Penn, so the choice of applying is yours. If you don’t get into Wharton, you can still get into finance upon graduating from any number of top schools, so don’t think getting rejected from Wharton is the be-all and end-all of your career in finance. Where you get your MBA is more important in the long run, anyways (although Wharton undergrads have a significant advantage in the business world). </p>
<p>I’m not a Penn student, but that’s just my two-cents.</p>
<p>Thanks a lot Supersizeme.</p>
<p>Given my stats above, would it be best for me to EA a school such as Princeton or Yale (good for my music ECs) or ED Wharton? Statistically, I figured that they’re all the toughest (percentage wise) in terms of acceptance. I assume that most Asian applicants to Wharton have already started successful businesses/been actively involved in a national level business contest, etc.</p>
<p>A lot have but it is impossible to tell if most have. We don’t have access to that data. Either is fine. I’d do early action at some school as you don’t seem to have a clear cut first choice.</p>
<p>Well, you should really decide where to apply early based on your own individual preferences. If you apply SCEA to HYPS, you won’t have an advantage if you apply to one school over another, so research the schools and suss out which one is right for you. ED to Wharton is a slightly tougher decision to make because a) it’s binding and b) it’s a business school, which may be harder to get into if you don’t have the ECs and you may not want to limit yourself to a business undergrad (even though you can transfer into SAS). If it’s something you really want to do, go ahead and apply to Wharton… you still have a strong chance based on your stats.</p>
<p>Hi, I’ve heard some rumors that at Penn , Wharton is the center of attention and Wharton students tend to have a condescending attitude towards students at other schools. TO what extent is this true? :P</p>
<p>You can always transfre from CAS to wharton right?</p>
<p>That is I guess if you’re GPA is good.</p>
<p>do they consider ap classes taken in senior year?? im going to be a junior in HS now and i’m taking two ap classes : apush and ap english. I will take more ap classes in my senior year but i’m worried that the scores for ap classes in senior year won’t count.</p>
<p>Yes, senior year A.P. scores count as much as any year A.P. scores. Make sure you send your scores to Penn though.</p>
<p>They count for college credits, as do AP scores from every year. Colleges also want to see a rigorous course-load in the 12th grade, so hyju94, Senior year classes matter a lot.</p>
<p>I am struggling between Wharton and CAS…I really wanna go to wharton, but I heard CAS is a little easier to get into than Wharton… Wharton only admitted ver few Chinese last year(I am Chinese, but studying in American High school)…if i hope to get into upenn, do you recommend me to apply to CAS instead of Wharton, so that i can have a better chance? Is it hard to transfer into wharton after getting admitted?</p>
<p>The advice I always give is to apply to the school you want to study at, and don’t worry about acceptance rates. At a school like Georgetown, you can transfer between schools before you even arrive on campus first semester freshman year. At Penn, you are required to be in the school you are admitted to for at least a year. And transferring into Wharton is highly competitive, and you are by no means guaranteed that you will be accepted to transfer. So if you really want to go to Wharton, apply to Wharton.</p>
<p>I mean, if you really want to play the numbers game, Nursing probably has the highest acceptance rate at 20%. And I don’t think your ethnicity will make it easier for you to get into CAS than Wharton, but I could be wrong…</p>
<p>So to get the fact straight: CAS has a higher acceptance rate than wharton right?</p>