<p>Everyone on this forum has practically dispelled the cut-throat rumors, but what about the curve for the classes? Is one fourth of the class in the pre med route automatically going to die? I will only have had AP Bio and AP Calc. I'm scared I would study my butt off only to receive a D because I work alongside genius students.</p>
<p>If you work hard and you actually understand what you’re doing, grades will not be a problem. Believe, you’ll know when you doing well. And don’t think you’re the only one who will have trouble, since almost everyone else is in the same boat as you. I’ve never taken a pre-med class so I can’t tell you what the curves are like, but I can tell you that if you put in the work, you’ll do fine.</p>
<p>I started off pre-med and switched because I became interested in another subject. But my freshmen year I took the pre-med classes and did well (A’s and B’s) - and I didn’t take any science or math APs in high school. I’m definitely not a genius! You just have to put the time in. The best description of Hopkins grading is, “You get what you earn.” There’s no grade inflation here. You work for that A… it doesn’t fall into your lap!</p>
<p>So would an Anthropology major for pre med at Hopkins be feasible/good? I know that JHU’s anthro is just socio-cultural, but that’s my favorite! Do many people @ JHU major in anthro?</p>
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<p>thanks bluejay10.
very helpful.
:)</p>
<p>I agree completely with bluejay10. I came in as a freshman. I did fine/well (A’s/B’s) in premed courses but became more intrigued by my economics/math courses. Personally, I came in only having taken AP Calc out of science/math. It was annoying in the sense that a decent amount of people I studied with for general chem had seen the material in AP Chem so it was easier for them, but if you are willing to put in more time to study you will be fine/just need to put in a little more effort.</p>
<p>Also, don’t forget that labs are only 1 credit relative to 3 for the course itself without the lab. I busted my *** in chem lab and kind of regret the fact that I probably could have better spent my time learning chemistry rather than stressing over significant figures.</p>
<p>I did not take chem or chem lab (yay AP and not being pre-med :p) but I did take physics and the lab (105-106, the “physics major” ones) and the lab is not hard. It’s annoying and tedious, because the experiments don’t tend to work exactly as planned, and the TA’s demand that you provide very thorough and thoughtful responses, but it’s not hard to do well as long as you give the graders what they want. Is it the same for chem lab? I have no idea.</p>
<p>95% of your classmates will not be geniuses, but 99% of them will work very very very hard to get ahead of you. I think that is what is hard about Hopkins. People are very extremely motivated to do well. So you won’t be losing to those “smarter” than you, but you’ll be losing to those who can pull all-nighters better than you. As far as pre-med classes, yes, most of them are graded based on a bell-curve. This means that a majority of the class will get average (B-/B/B+ depending on the professor), a small percentage will get A’s, and a small percentage will get C’s, and very few will actually fail. So you won’t have to bust your a** to get a D, but you will bust your a** to get that A.</p>
<p>so the thing with pre-med is some people dont know their limits. dont stack up on all the hardcore premed classes. you see all these bio majors or w/e taking 3-4 science courses and labs and they wonder why they are getting B’s or worse early on and A’s later on in upper levels. </p>
<p>take the time to find your limit during the first semester. i took too tough a load my freshman year and got B’s in classes i should have aced (calcii, genchem ii, etc.). since sophmore year, ive had 1 b in a science lecture (not a prereq). the rest have been solid A’s (and these were all prereqs for med school). i attribute the success to taking a lighter load (but still heavy enough for dean’s list… so 14-15 credits, with no more than 2 premed lecture requirements) and spending MORE QUALITY time studying, going to review sessions, and going to office hours. take the time to make sure you understand EVERYTHING important (talk to profs and read the book and look at practice problems to find out what is important) especially the topics you initially have trouble with. this obviously means you have to do a good job of not falling behind in class so you have the time to put in all the extra effort to master the material.</p>
<p>IMHO the difference between the A and B is not your intelligence, it is how hard you are willing to work to master the material and not just be pretty good at it. give yourself enough time to master the materials and you’ll be making A’s in pre med courses! :)</p>
<p>in other words, don’t worry about curves. learn the information you are supposed to learn and curves will only help you and not hurt you! if you are having problems even after studying a lot and doing the right things, you need to seek help from others. swallow the pride you have built in high school and seek the tremendous resources you have at hopkins including tutoring through academic advising and studying with friends and other classmates that are doing well in their courses. also be sure to really use office hours. most people overlook this, but having misconceptions and answers clarified by the person making your exams is pure gold lol.</p>
<p><em>idk</em> made a subtle point two posts ago that I think merits expansion: “so 14-15 credits, with no more than 2 premed lecture requirements)”. In my opinion, 14-16 (plus .5 with a language) is the ideal amount. You won’t be too stressed about the workload and if you do well, your GPA will support itself. My first two semesters, I took 16.5 credits. This last year, I took 14 during the fall, and then 19 during the spring, 4 of which were math courses. I will not do that again. I have spoken with several people and most of us agree that 14-16 is the right amount.</p>
<p>the only people i know who have had at least 3 semesters of 4.0 at hopkins took 14 credits those semesters on average… haha that may be the magic credit load. id say 14 is ideal if you can do it and still graduate on time. im averaging 14-15 credits since freshman year but im not including “classes” that dont have grades, like research or the medical tutorials.</p>
<p>14-15 cred is ideal in my opinion at least for getting started until you find your groove. i took 14 credits both semesters of freshman year (if you are coming in with some credits it makes life easier). i then took 17.5 soph fall, which was actually not bad at all - the only time it got bad was finals week when you have so many exams/papers in such a short span, so if you take alot of classes you really need to stay on top of the classes.</p>
<p>and yanksdolphins, chem lab itself was not hard at all but yes, it was graded very tediously and students lost full letter grades (A to B, B to C, etc) if they didn’t do a good job with their significant figures and measurements which they are a little too concerned with if you ask me. But if you put in alot of effort, you definitely should do well because it’s all a matter of how much time you are willing to devote</p>
<p>yanksoffdolphins is a math major who’s never been near a premed class other than maybe intro physics or chem</p>
<p>First, it’s YanksDolphins (no of). Second, when have I ever claimed to be an expert on pre-med?</p>