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I do agree with the last three posts, but I think that name recognition makes it easier than if you went to some obscure no name university.
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<p>There is no such thing as a no-name oscure university. And yes, I am going to call you an ignorant person.</p>
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If they don't qualify for financial aid, don't recieve merit scholarships, and don't take out loans, then the next best thing would be a state university.
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<p>Exactly. There are people who could have gotten to "elite" universities that go to state schools.</p>
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There is no such thing as a no-name oscure university. And yes, I am going to call you an ignorant person.
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<p>There are about 4000 colleges in the US, how many can you name?</p>
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<p>I could proably name about 150-200.. </p>
<p>That's doesn't mean that a college that I can't name isn't a good college.</p>
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There are people who could have gotten to "elite" universities that go to state schools.
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<p>Only cause its their last option.</p>
<p>So if I picked some college that CC hasn't listed in their college forum, you're gonna tell me that its a good school? It doesn't even warrant it own message board. It may sound stupid, but its true.</p>
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<p>It is their last option because they don't qualify for financial aid and can't afford a $180,000 education.</p>
<p>It is not their last option, it is their only option.</p>
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So if I picked some college that CC hasn't listed in their college forum, you're gonna tell me that its a good school? It doesn't even warrant it own message board. It may sound stupid, but its true.
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<p>What determines a "good" school?</p>
<p>Most tier 4 schools are pretty well known to their area. Although someone who goes to say.. Western Michigan University isn't going to drop any jaws out in California, in Michigan most people know exactly what that is and think of it as a pretty decent university. It is just an example.</p>
<p>granted, the top university will help with the resume and make you look pretty smart, and also the extra attention from the school is very nice. There really is a different between just being a number and actually having the school want to help you and be a bit more individualized.</p>
<p>What about joining ROTC or the military? ROTC will pretty much provide a full scholarship to any university.</p>
<p>but then you are ROTC, lol</p>
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It is just an example, but granted, the top university will help with the resume and make you look pretty smart.
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<p>It might make you look smart, but it won't guarantee that you will get a job over a person who went to a state school.</p>
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<p>Why are you trying to change the subject?</p>
<p>That's what I've been saying :)</p>
<p>ROTC was just an example of financial aid available to anyone. </p>
<p>I'm not saying it will guarantee that you will get a job over a person who went to a state school. I think it gives a better chance provided the person has the other qualities required to be sucessful.</p>
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I'm not saying it will guarantee that you will get a job over a person who went to a state school. I think it gives a better chance provided the person has the other qualities required to be sucessful.
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<p>But you did say that people who go to state schools can't compete with people at "elite" schools.</p>
<p>Some people might tell you that you will get a better job if you go to an "elite" university, but in reality you are on the same level with a person who went to a state school who has the same qualities like you.</p>
<p>I hear Olympia Career Training Institute is quickly rising in the rankings and will soon rival UMich, USC and UCLA.</p>
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But you did say that people who go to state schools can't compete with people at "elite" schools.
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The general population of an elite school will have better students than the general population of a state school. This does not mean that one person will be more sucessful than the next, or even smarter, but the GENERAL POPULATION will be a bit different. </p>
<p>A lot of these kids at elite schools get so wrapped up in school and live almost like a fairy tale that once they get in the real world they have no clue what is going on. Yes, you see this at state schools, but more often in the elite schools, because chances are they haven't worked a day in their life, and mommy and daddy bought their college, car, and everything they own.</p>
<p>Exactly. The general population of an elite school will have better students than the general population of a state school. This does not mean that one person will be more sucessful than the next, or even smarter, but the GENERAL POPULATION will be a bit different.
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<p>I can agree with this. The gernal population is probably smarter, but you can't say that a student from a state school can't compete with a student from an "elite" university.</p>
<p>I am going to make another comparison using sports. There are some NBA players who are drafted #1 overall who had successful college careers who can't compete in the NBA.</p>
<p>Then there are players who are not even drafted who are NBA All-Stars.</p>
<p>When I say compete, I'm mostly thinking academically and intellectually. The general population is smarter at an elite school. I agree that in the job market, the playing field is more level. But I still feel that if you had to two people, with the exact same qualifications and attributes and one went to an elite school and another went to a less known school, the one who went to the elite school would have a better chance of being hired. Yes, it is a generalization and I know that there are other factors. And I'll leave it at that.</p>