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<p>Yes!! You finally said it!!</p>
<p>You are saying that some students at state schools can compete with some students at "elite" universities.</p>
<p>I said that in an earlier post. Some but the numbers are limited. And as you get lower and lower down the ranks the numbers decrease. But if some appeases you, I guess we are done here.</p>
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I said that in an earlier post. Some but the numbers are limited. And as you get lower and lower down the ranks the numbers decrease. But if some appeases you, I guess we are done here.
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<p>Please refer me to the post because I didn't see it.</p>
<p>Some does appease me, because some number is an unspecified number. I don't and you don't know how mant students at state schools can compete with students at "elite" schools. It might be 10%, 30%, 50%, 70%.</p>
<p>But don't say that nobody at a state school can't compete with somebody at an "elite" school.</p>
<p>Even community colleges have brilliant people, they are everywhere! Including your local factories.</p>
<p>I took a class at a community college this summer and there were good students and not so good students. They are going to exist in every single college and university.</p>
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And there are maybe a few at your university that can, are there 5000? No.
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<p>Theres some. Some but the numbers are limited. And as you get lower and lower down the ranks the numbers decrease. There, I'm not saying nobody.</p>
<p>Good students and not so good student relative to what? Could they handle that same class at your state university? Could they handle it at an elite school? Community college is known for easier, watered down classes.</p>
<p>4orce, It is really obvious you are an entering freshman.</p>
<p>Yeah, you can pretty much tell from the first post of the topic which we seemed to stray from.</p>
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Theres some. Some but the numbers are limited. And as you get lower and lower down the ranks the numbers decrease. There, I'm not saying nobody.</p>
<p>Good students and not so good student relative to what? Could they handle that same class at your state university? Could they handle it at an elite school? Community college is known for easier, watered down classes.
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<p>How do you know that the numbers are limited? Do you have any research to support your facts?</p>
<p>Like I said before, I have had professors at my state school who have taught at Stanford, Harvard, etc. They said they teach and grade the same way at my state school than the "elite" schools. So yes, I handled a class that was taught by an "elite" professor.</p>
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Yeah, you can pretty much tell from the first post of the topic which we seemed to stray from.
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<p>I didn't stray from anything. You posted supposed facts, so I disputed them.</p>
<p>Provide me with the means and I would do research.
Thats limited, if it was 100% it would not be limited and we all know that not every kid at your state university is smarter than a student at an elite school. If it was 100% then whats the point of going anywhere if everyone is the same. </p>
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To each his own. You are entitled to your own opinion and I respect that. I felt that my state universities were not good enough and wanted a better education. Its not a matter of not being able to pay for it, my parents can. I asked what can I do to lower the cost, not eliminate it.
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<p>I go to a state school that is 1/8 of the cost of your school and have professors that taught at Stanford, lectured at Harvard, etc. </p>
<p>You know what their comment was about these "elite" schools. They say that everybody at all schools are taught the same subject, but the only difference is that at the "elite school,s" the professors have more research experience.</p>
<p>In essence, there is a really no difference between a state school and an "elite" school.
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<p>I posted an opinion which you disputed, not facts.</p>
<p>We strayed away from the purpose of the topic which was supposed to be ways of reducing college costs.</p>
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The caliber of the students is much higher at an elite university.
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<p>That is what you stated. That is a supposed fact.</p>
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So if I picked some college that CC hasn't listed in their college forum, you're gonna tell me that its a good school? It doesn't even warrant it own message board. (It may sound stupid, but its true.)
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<p>This is what you stated earlier.</p>
<p>Those are opinions.</p>
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<p>So what did you base your opinions on?</p>
<p>Personal experience, other peoples experience, the internet/CC. </p>
<p>But thats the beauty of an opinion, I can say anything without proof. You're welcome to criticize and you are entitled to your own opinion. Do you have proof to everything you are saying? No.</p>
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<p>What experience have you had to compare people who go to and graduated from state schools and "elite" schools?</p>
<p>I would like you to back up this statement: "You cannot say that the students at your state university can compete with the students at Harvard"</p>
<p>My personal experience wasn't necessarily linked to being able to do that. My personal experience comes from community college classes which I've taken. But regardless, an opinion is an opinion and you can't take that away from me.</p>
<p>Where do you go? I can pull up college entrance requirements, grad school data. Hey, it may be a poor way of judging but for the most part, its true. If you want facts, those are facts.</p>