<p>Gracie…that’s our feeling as well. We’re seeing their true colors…maybe not a bad thing in retrospect.</p>
<p>You know, the one school where the coach behaved aggressively after d called him to say she was doing ED elsewhere…we had strange vibes about him from the start. I think his reaction to her decision confirms what we felt about him.</p>
<p>I agree, capital, that the hard sell is really unattractive. No matter what the coach says, d isn’t about to be honest about why another school beat out his school. I can’t imagine how this information would be of use to him anyway, as I’m sure he will have a team that is eager to be there and just as good as the others in the conference.</p>
<p>gracie, Capital and Lives,</p>
<p>Coaches come in all sorts of attitudes just as recruits do. The coaches reaction tells me that they read your intentions wrong, and he wants to understand why because he is doing this professionally. He can’t afford to let it happen again. The coaches that handle rejection better are most likely your more experienced coaches who’ve been around the block a few times.</p>
<p>Just think…If you’re in luck, you may face that coach 4 times in 4 years on the field, track, pool, etc… ;-). </p>
<p>This rejection thing works both ways. My son has told me about some kids that have it out for a particular coach/school in the same conference because they were passed over by another recruit. Trust me, it can be strong motivation. I’ve seen it. </p>
<p>Congrats and good luck!</p>
<p>Fenway, I’m sure you are right. I am disappointed in this one coach because d liked the school and team so much, and still considers it a great backup choice. He appears to be very disorganized, which I think gave me the odd vibe. I am hoping that d gets into her ED choice so that we don’t have to think about backup choices at all!</p>
<p>It wasn’t college but prep school when my D decided to go to the rival school I got a call from the coach–not to talk her out of her decision (was too late for that anyway)–but to find out what the factors were that lead her to make the choice she did. He was–and is a gentleman–and every time they saw each other for the next four years they would go out of their way to say hi. He really wanted to know if there was a problem that he might be able to address in the next recruiting season. I respected that and spoke with him honestly.</p>
<p>With the ED deadline approaching the coach reached out to my son to see if he needed any assistant in submitting his application or supporting documentation. The coach told my son that he is preparing a document that will be included in the application file. He reiterated that my son is an important part of his class and he will position him the best way possible to gain admission.</p>
<p>We remain encouraged and hopeful that an acceptance letter is forthcoming. December 15 cant arrive soon enough. Good luck to all!</p>
<p>S just applied ED to a NESCAC school for football. Coach offered strong support but S has an excellent EDII option as well as two very good RD choices as backup. Long recruiting process since S was also considering Patriot and Ivy League. However, he loves the balance of the NESCAC. As a parent I was extremely impressed by staff and the academic focus. Top notch football program but even better academics. Keeping our fingers crossed.</p>
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GarnetTide,</p>
<p>Your post is a perfect “example” (for aspiring recruits and parents of aspiring recruits) to read IMHO. Your son set his athletic and academic goals. He researched the options, shopped around, and selected the schools that best represented his long term interests. He looked at a variety of schools with the same common thread…academics in mind. This is how it is done well, when you take the time to learn about the process and start early in the process. You end up with some great options. Congrats!</p>
<p>2 more weeks for the ed 1 verdict. D has started the countdown. I can tell she is starting to get a little nervous.</p>
<p>145bluz…do you do the shuffle if residing on E Street?</p>
<p>^^^^ And are wild or innocent? ;)</p>
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<p>Threesdad…It took someone from NJ to pick up on that! </p>
<p>Golfather…I am not wild, nor innocent…and at this point all I can do is shuffle!</p>
<p>145: Quite a few of my mis-spent (but enjoyable) summers when much younger were spent in Asbury Park.</p>
<p>Touche GolfFather Touche</p>
<p>In the same situation as the rest of you. Applied to Carnegie Mellon ED1 as a recruit and i’m just waiting for a response…</p>
<p>I am way more nervous than my S as the 15th approaches. Similar to watching him play. I guess the good thing is we have backup plans in place. Good luck to all the parents as you wait to hear the news about where you will be traveling for the next four years. I can’t wait to put the college stickers on the cars!</p>
<p>S applied ED to NESCAC school. He was heavily recruited by several NESCACs and more modestly by 2 Ivy’s. </p>
<p>He got a positive admissions pre-read from his top choice and coach told S he was his top priority and he would get one of his slots if he applied ED. Coach told him he wouldn’t enourage him to apply ED if he didnt believe it would turn out well (of course he never guaranteed admission because he cant). That said, we took the leap of faith because all signs pointed to a positive outcome.</p>
<p>S passed up a number of other solid opportunities. In most cases the coaches were not happy when S turned them down. Not sure whether any of those doors remain open. </p>
<p>Having just come accross these strings I have to say they are concerning to read. It seems like some believe trusting the process is not a good idea. This is my oldest kid and we are new to recruiting. Are there regularly incidences where NESCAC coaches mislead athletes?</p>
<p>BMDDAD </p>
<p>My D is in the same position as your son-waiting ed on a NESCAC school. In my opinion, most of the coaches were great. I think the main confusion arises when athletes/parents don’t ask the right questions of the coaches. I was fortunate to read these blogs prior to meeting with the coaches. It has been mentioned many times on CC that the student-athlete should ask what type of support the coach is providing. I sense that if your son received a “slot” it would be likely he would gain admission (if pre-read was good). However, I think many times players believe their getting supported with a slot or tip and in reality they are not. The student meets with coach and coach says" we would love to have you here…you would be a great fit for team". The player misinterpretes this as significant support ( as did I in the beginning).</p>
<p>Thanks 145bluz</p>
<p>I was with my son on his first visit to the school. Although it’s apparent now we didnt have all the right questions ready, the coach very clearly volunteered/explained what their slotting system meant (and that he had only 2 or 3 slots to work with). He told my son that day that he was his top kid. He later went on an OV and coach followed up telling him the feedback from his players was all great. As I mentioned in prior post, coach said pre-read with admissions went well. S is #1 in his class with many APs but his SAT’s aren’t great. </p>
<p>Truthfully, the advice we were given is that coaches want to talk students, not parents; so I did my best to stay away from directly communicating with coaches. I can understand this to a point but in hindsight maybe this was bad advice.</p>
<p>I helped S a lot behind the scenes – he has almost no down time (3 sports and a huge amount of school work). Whenever S did talk to coaches I did my best to debrief him so I could listen for possible red flags. After he made his final decision and spoke to the coach he related the conversation to me and it was clear to me that the coach reafirmed his slot support and, as I mentioned, said he wouldnt ask S to apply ED if he didnt believe it would work out. Certainly not a guarantee and a skeptical person could say the coach was giving himself wiggle room. But, I have to say that this coach struck me as a straight shooter and up until now the process has proceeded exactly as he told us it would during that first meeting.</p>
<p>It’s just lately, reading some of these boards is unnerving! It’s hard to tell whether it would be a complete abberation for my S not to get admited or if it happens fairly often.</p>
<p>145bluz and BMDDAD,</p>
<p>I’m a couple years removed from the Ivy/Nescac recruiting. I understand your nervousness. You can’t wait for the date to come to find out. I’m in the same boat with my middle son right now. Don’t second guess yourself. You’ve done the best you can do under the circumstances, and they can be very difficult circumstances with travel, OVs, Fall sportsl and lots of AP classes, etc… </p>
<p>It come down to two things…does the coach want your son for his team, and does the school think he has the academic credentials. While we may think that “we” (recruits and parents) own the recruiting process it is actually the school or coach. Sorry, it is a heavily weighted supply side decision. The level of support the coach told your son he would get is exactly what he’ll get. The schools make the ultimate decisions in almost all cases, and there isn’t much we can do about it. Good luck!</p>
<p>Based on past experience, when they say u will know the ED application results NLT 15 Dec, does that mean, in reality, that u will find out Dec 15, or cud it be the 14th/13th or even earlier?</p>
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