Dartmouth Athletic Recruit Academics

<p>Would anyone who has been recruited into dartmouth or another ivy league please post their stats (gpa, test scores, class rank, etc...), and elaborate on how their athletic abilities factored into admissions?</p>

<p>I am an athlete and I won’t comment on myself but I can tell you that if half the team has a 2400 and the other half has a 1600 the school pretty much considers it a 2000 overall for the team. Obviously it’s not like that but you definitely do not need any higher than ~1800 to be an ivy league athlete because there are kids on the teams with really good grades. They need to keep a team average so they take both the high and the low</p>

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<p>A year or two ago there was a poster from FL whose son was a football recruit who received a likely. IIRC, his ACT composite was 29. That’s the only stat I remember.</p>

<p>Several years ago there was a brouhaha about the low stats of a bunch of basketball recruits at H. </p>

<p>On the other hand, one of the track recruits I know was a Presidential Scholar nominee. So obviously the standards vary by sport and probably by athletic prowess as well. There is some agreed upon minimum stat combo for Ivy League athletic admissions, I believe. It was mentioned at the time of the Harvard basketball kerfluffle. IIRC, it is drastically lower than that of the typical Ivy admit, but probably a whole lot higher than your typical D1 football/basketball program.</p>

<p>So…if you’re a nationally ranked athlete with Olympic potential would an ivy admissions committee be okay with, say, a 3.8 gpa and 700 or over for all SAT tests? Also, for recruits, does the admissions committee take into account the difficulty of classes? Or is it just all about the numbers?</p>

<p>So…if you’re a nationally ranked athlete with Olympic potential would an ivy admissions committee be okay with, say, a 3.8 gpa and 700 or over for all SAT tests? Also, for recruits, does the admissions committee take into account the difficulty of classes? Or is it just all about the numbers?</p>

<p>^I don’t have much knowledge on the subject, but 700s on the SAT sections should be enough. One of my friends told me Harvard required one athlete to have a 33 on the ACT, which is about a 2180. I am not sure what his other credentials were, perhaps his GPA was low.</p>

<p>A high level athlete with 700+ on each SAT section would very likely be admitted anywhere. You can search ‘academic index’ which is a score calculated based on SAT (cr and math), SAT II subj tests and class rank (or GPA). Basically the athlete’s AI score must be within one statistical standard deviation of the typical student on campus. Football has a slightly less rigorous standard.</p>

<p>It depends on the sport and your composite AI score, which is composed of gpa, test scores, and if available class rank. They make adjustments for the school, etc. Example- a kid with a 4.0 and a 19-25 ACT is different than a kid with a 28-32 ACT and a 3.0 from a tough school with tough honors and AP classes. The later is more likely to be entered, subject to the sport and the team overall AI. Furthermore, part of it is whether the classes taken in HS demonstrate an ability to cope in a competitive academic environment while playing a sport. Again, coaches have more lattitude on team sports where they are bringing in greater number of players.</p>

<p>The lowest SAT score admitted on my team was around a 1900, he obviously had the most talent. I got recruited on a 35 ACT and perfectly average athletic stats (for ivy league recruits)- not ED.</p>

<p>I’m going to an ivy as a 2015 baseball player. SAT:1900, GPA:3.9. I know guys with better stats and worse stats that I played with at showcases last summer, that are going to ivy schools as well. If a coach wants you, and you clear the magic number on the academic index (173 or so), you are in. It’s that simple.</p>

<p>SAT 2140
GPA 4.3
NO CLASS RANK
GOOD EC’s
Played two sports, recruited in both by Ivies.</p>

<p>Received likely letter for sport and chosen school in October. If the schools like you and your AI is high, you are guaranteed acceptance. Grades and conduct need to be maintained.</p>

<p>I had a 26 ACT score and a 3.8 GPA (with good ec) and was heavily recruited by Dartmouth. If you can play, anything about a 25 ACT (or SAT equivalent) and good GPA should get you in.</p>

<p>DPlatt wrote: “If you can play” </p>

<p>There’s tremendous variation in this. And the evaluation is up to the coaches. There’s a correlation of course – the better you are, the more likely standards are relaxed. But a general statement like that is not very enlightening.</p>

<p>My friend is a track star who was recruited by Brown, Cornell, and Harvard coaches. She eventually applied ED to Harvard, and was accepted.</p>

<p>However, her status as an athletic recruit is not what made her a competitive applicant. In addition to being amazingly talented sports-wise, she’s also one of the most brilliant people I know. Her GPA is above 4.6 and she takes extremely challenging courses. She’s had several fairly prestigious internships, and is an all-state musician. The one weak part of her application was her test scores; quite simply, she doesn’t test well. Her SAT was 1800 (but she didn’t send this score in).</p>

<p>She took the ACT and I think she got either a 28 or a 29. But the important part is that while her test scores were low, the rest of her application was stellar. I believe that the fact that she was an athlete made the adcoms look past the low scores. But even an excellent, Olympic-quality athlete is probably unlikely to get into an Ivy if his or her stats are not competitive. Being an athlete is a push towards admission, but hardly a guarantee. If your stats are sub-par, then you’re probably not going to get in no matter what hooks you have.</p>

<p>In the Ivies, there is a big difference between “being recruited” and receiving a Likely Letter and subsequent acceptance.</p>

<p>Coaches recruit. Admissions admit. In the Ivies, that distinction is key; in many other leagues, that is a distinction without a real difference.</p>

<p>Ivy coaches will recruit the best athlete the coach believes can pass admission; but there is a point at which admissions will say “no.”. What is that point? Lots of variables, but as a general rule of thumb: the better the athlete and the higher visibility of the sport the lower the objective stats need to be (so long as the stats are over a particular threshold).</p>

<p>I have personal knowledge of athletes who have been “recruited” by Ivy league coaches, but were unable to get that coveted Likely Letter due to academic stats not reaching the threshold.</p>

Did you have any C’s? What sport did you play? And are you a minority? Not to be nosey, but I’m being recruited by Dartmouth and have similar stats, so I’m curious.

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