Daughter accepted !
pvt college prep school in Ga , they don’t rank but let the top 10% know beforehand , she made the cut, 10 AP’s
NMSF, national award winner in voice ( young Arts) and writing. She did Iowa and Kenyon over summers . I think Her essays for Dartmouth were excellent , judging by the superb stats of all the other kids I see here , that is my only explanation for why she got in .
She was a defer and then reject at Yale,
Northwestern ,Georgetown, UVA,UNC,UGA, Tufts, BC accept,
Columbia Brown and Barnard waitlist
Upenn and Vanderbilt Reject
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This is an insane amount of salt all because your kid didn’t get in.
Sorry that doesn’t equal an acceptance. The VAST majority of Ivy applicants are academically qualified for the rigors of an Ivy League.
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S23 rejected. But accepted to Cornell, his #2 choice, so all is good.
ED deferred
4.0UW 97.5 weighted average
1510 sat
8/9 APs. All 4s except one 3 I think (no scores for the 4 this year yet)
4 DE including 2 at Cornell summer program with As
Youth sports league Volunteer and employment for all 4 years of HS
Varsity captain
Great assays (at least I thought so)
Legacy (alumni admissions interviewer and DCF fund raiser)
Go Big Red!
Completely understand.
Daughter rejected from Dartmouth. We are not Dartmouth alumni but husband and I are Cornell Alumni and daughter has similar stats to your son. We are in NY, white female, and she was deferred ED then waitlisted at Cornell. Needless to say no more donations or alumni interviews from us!
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Yes but her family has also supported the school in many other ways. And her support of the school has, in turn, helped other students along the way. Where do you think financial aid comes from? They have invested time over the years with alumni interviews. Can’t speak for Dartmouth but we had the same experience as Techno13 at Cornell and you better believe we are salty!
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The school you donate to doesn’t owe your kid an acceptance. If you can point to some agreement y’all signed where that exists, be my guest.
Legacy students still have an incredibly strong hook in this process and acting as if that doesn’t exist anymore at schools or is suddenly waning is frankly sour grapes.
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Legacy no longer has the same hook as it once used to. In fact, I believe it can have a negative impact. And no, the school I donate to is not obligated to take my child but when my child is highly qualified and another student from her school gets in with mediocre academic performance and extracurriculars (as is the case in my kid’s situation), it bothers me. I no longer want a relationship with the school.
I won’t debate this with you. Good luck to your child.
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Then you can comment in 30 years when your alma mater kicks your kid in the teeth after years of support, involvement , and donations from you.
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When I donate to my alma mater, I just want to give back to the institution that gave me a world-class education. My intention isn’t to one day get my kid into the same school I went to with some special hook and then whine on online forums while blaming everyone else for a result they were not happy with.
If you want favors for your donation, be upfront with the school. Don’t whine when they can’t read between your lines.
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I think they’ll be ok without him interviewing, that’s really just a way to make alumni feel important so they’ll donate.
I totally support legacy not being a factor, why should the privileged get more privileged. There are tons of kids with the same achievements who have been homeless, are first generation, had no chance for cool extracurriculars because they help in the family business, or can being other diverse factors that will make the class and our country better.
Hamilton is a great option, good luck to your kid.
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I respectfully request that you stop responding like this. You are being very insensitive and inappropriate to a parent who is justifiably upset at the moment about the results of her child’s admissions decisions. You have your opinion, but you cannot understand what it feels like to be in her shoes at this moment, so please do us all a favor and stop with your comments. Thank you.
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Being upset doesn’t justify denigrating the accomplishments of others because of their background and then claiming that your alma mater all of a sudden engages in un-meritocratic activities because they do not serve your own self-interest.
Please direct me towards where I said something insensitive and inappropriate and I will be more than happy to address said grievances.
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I don’t think people are upset because they want special standards for their kids as legacies. I think people are upset because all kids aren’t treated equally and held to the same standards. All anyone wants is equality and fairness.
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Debate is not permitted on CC so anyone wanting to continue discussing legacy please move it to PM. Further comments will be deleted.
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My DD was accepted RD last night and is over the moon. No legacy, no hook, no interview — just a strong candidate who wrote serious, thoughtful essays about how well-suited Dartmouth is for her interests and style of learning. 1540 SAT. Unranked school, but UW GPA 3.9, 1 varsity sport, almost all honors level courses (but only took one AP test) at highly competitive east coast private school.
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You are correct the schools owe their alums nothing. The flip side is you really can’t piss off an entire community of alums. Alums matter, a lot. And they matter more at small schools. That being said I also think it is unrealistic (and completely agree with you) to expect these schools not to break some eggs. Dartmouth has like a 6% acceptance rate. No where close to all the qualified applicants of alumni are going to get into the school. At some schools it may actually hurt you to be a legacy IF there are a large pool of legacy kids applying.
I’d remind many of these Ivy alums to take a look around themselves. The undergrad degree matters a whole lot less than the next degree if your kid is destined from a masters, a JD or whatever else. I went to a top law school years ago. The kids who went to Ivy League schools were nothing special relative to the rest of us students. Kids should be focused on finding schools that feel “right” to them. Bc if they perfom, they’ll be just fine in taking their next step. An Ivy League degree is far less important than people think.
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The acceptance rate is 6%. Six. Percent. There are going to be far more qualified applicants who are rejected than are accepted. That’s just math. You can’t get perfect fairness or equality. There are only so many spots.
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Until you are a parent you have no idea.
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I’m a parent and I understand that my child isn’t entitled to a spot at my alma mater. Every school has different priorities when filling a class. When the admit rate is less than 10%, there are multiple qualified applicants for every space – multiple kids with perfect SATs, multiple valedictorians, multiple gifted athletes/musicians/legacies.
My suggestion is to change your focus from frustration with Dartmouth to excitement about Hamilton – also an excellent school, and one that many people were rejected/waitlisted by this year. Your child will receive a top-notch education with a personal touch that a smaller school can provide.
Best of luck to you.
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