Dartmouth ED? Want to check out my profile?

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<p>Do you think I'm a good candidate or should I look elsewhere?</p>

<p>White female at rural upstate NY school
single mom going to college (income=$29,000), one sister in elementary school
SAT I
CR=720, W=690, M=540 (hopefully tomorrow I will raise that)</p>

<p>SAT II
US History: 750
*I still need more (Nov. 1st)</p>

<p>ECs
Editor of The Bear school newspaper junior and senior year
Assistant Editor of The Bear Sophomore year
Editor of yearbook sophomore - senior year
model UN sophomore-senior year
key club freshman year
social action club sophomore
V. Swim team-freshman year
V. Volleyball manager-sophomore year
V. Lacrosse-junior year
international club sophomore
enviro club sophomore-senior year
thespians junior & senior year
class secretary junior & senior
*<em>Founded a free used clothing store for my high school
*</em>interned at my county's Youth Bureau summer before senior year
*<em>awared $3,480 grant to attend Middlebury Monterey Language Academy-Spanish
*</em>Accepted to the St. Lawrence University's Young Writer's Conference two years in a row</p>

<p>6 APs out of 8 offered
Bio-3, US History-4, English Lang.-4, (three more this year)
I am taking two college courses at St. Lawrence University this year Spanish 201 and Applied Statistics-Math 113 I have a 4.0 in both so far.</p>

<p>GPA-90.0</p>

<p>*hospitalized for a month my junior year
*moved 3 times in high school (3 different states=AZ, GA, NY)</p>

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<p>Honestly your stats need a boost. With the current SAT its going to be tough.</p>

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<p>The median composite score for '12 freshmen was 2200. Not going to happen.</p>

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<p>Depending on the SAT boost, it might be better to apply to less of a reach ED.</p>

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<p>^^ hey slipper, what SAT score would you consider to be realistic for dartmouth ED?</p>

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<p>All I can say is as an interviewer for 5 years I haven’t gotten one unhooked candidate in with less than a 2150-2200.</p>

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<p>^^Does Dartmouth pay more attention to the break up or the overall score? I got a 2260, but my CR was 660..</p>

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<p>Since you need financial aid and your test scores and grades could use a boost, I would not say you are a good ED candidate. However, with your family situation, you would catch the admission office’s eye, so definitely look into RD, hopefully with high grades first term, strong recs referring to your family situation (low income, single mom…make sure your counselor lays it on strong about this). If you can bring up the scores and bit and have a sterling first term, you have a shot at this. However, D is a reach for everyone; do be aware. Also, you need to have some schools where you can compare financial aid packages. Take a look at UNC’s program for low income kids; and also look for some schools where you know you are way up there in SAT scores as that increases your chances for generous package offers.</p>

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<p>Honestly I think the Ivies in general are going to be tough.</p>

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<p>I don’t do chances so I am not going to “chance” you just offer my $.02.</p>

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<p>Based on her financial information present, she would attend Dartmouth virtually free (she would definitely be pell eligible). She would have a work study job and a student contribution which she would have to find a way to make, but the tuition room board would be covered with no loans.</p>

<p>However, her non-custodial parent information could drasticially change whether or not it will be a financially feasible option for OP.</p>

<p>Op must remember that unless she is able to get a non-custodial waiver, she will have to supply the financial information from her father (if there is child support, there is contact, so student would have to supply information).</p>

<p>I agree that if her SAT scores come up a bit. </p>

<p>Set up a series of meetings with your GC as this is a time, where you will really need him/her to advocate for you and to tell your situation in her recommendation (do not use your essays to tell your tale of woe).</p>

<p>Is your 90 average based on your GPA at all of the schools you attended or just your current school? See your GC about making sure s/he can coordinate getting official copies of your transcripts from your other schools sent to your current school so they they can all go out together).</p>

<p>Does her school rank? I don’t think she will be added in the ranking at her current school. However, GC should address this in the recommendation and state that student is unranked because she has not been in residence in the current school long enough to be considered in the rank. However, if she were placed in the rank, she would be ranked in the ____% of the class.</p>

<p>Make sure essays, recs and peer recs are on point.</p>

<p>The one down sides that I see to this situation is that there are a lot of students from NY who are going to be in the pool (there are even going to be low income students who will present better stats). </p>

<p>Overall, the Op is going to be evaluated in context of opportunities offered to her and how well she took advantage of those opportunites. For Op, this may be matter of coming big or staying home. If she has done her due diligence (especially where the non-custodial is concerned), she should toss her hat in the ED ring where she has more of a chance to stand out.</p>

<p>note: Op should have a SUNY submitted with in the next week or 2 so that she has a safety school to fall back on. While she is not HEOP eligible, I would recommend adding some schools in NYS to her list where she will receive TAP in addition to Pell (Barnard, the land grant schools at Cornell are great schools that would be less of a reach and financially feasible options).</p>

<p>good luck</p>

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<p>Because she is going to really need a good fin aid package, Sybbie, would you not say that it would be better for her to apply RD to D and a couple of other schools that are similar to see what the packages are? The student contribution can be a negotiating item. Don’t know what D expects as compared to like schools. I think with Cornell and Barnard in the pocket with a package to compare would be a good option. S’s college upped his merit award in light of a Cornell acceptance with lower COA for him. Makes a very difference each year for us.</p>

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<p>I believe that if her income is less than $75000, then she is getting a full ride, correct me if I’m wrong. Also, ED is nonbinding if you cannot attend due to financial problems, again, correct me if I’m wrong.</p>

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<p>Full ride is not always full ride. D, like many schools requires a student contribution towards costs which can be ornerous for someone whose family earns $29K. Heck even $1000 is a lot in that framework. Also, as Sybbie noticed, there is no mention of Dad. It is not a done deal that he is not in the picture unless he is deceased.</p>

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<p>Sneamia is right that under the new FA plan, she would get free tuition. Given her present situation, she would also probably have close to a “0” EFC which means her room and board would be covered. </p>

<p>If push came to shove, she could take out a loan fromt he school for things such as a computer, the part of the health insurance that the school would not cover and some other misc. items. Over all, she would have much less debt attending Dartmouth, than she would attending SUNY (where she would automatically get a stafford loan in her package, possibly even a perkins as SUNYs do not meet 100% demonstrated need).</p>

<p>Probably the only schools that would in this situation give student an equal or lower student contribution would probably be Williams, HYP(which she would give up comparing packages to going ED). </p>

<p>The student contribution probably would not be lower coming from a school like Barnard or Cornell unless she was a HEOP student (the up side would be that because she is a NYS resident, she would be eligible for TAP, which is NYS aid).</p>

<p>Based on my D’s experience at Dartmouth, the student contibution is usually used for the student’s misc. travel to and from school (she would just have to take greyhound or amtrak) personal expenses, books etc. and most likely none of the student contibution would go toward the payment of tuition, room, board (unless she had considerable assets). </p>

<p>In her situation, this would be the case at any other similar caliber school that she gets admitted to. This is the reason I made note of her not being HEOP eligible (because HEOP would have picked up the cost for books). </p>

<p>You are correct that if there is a non-custodial parent, then all bets would be off and she should go RD.</p>

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<p>I got the impression that M and CR were still considered more important than the third section.</p>

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<p>Thanks so much everyone, I agree my SATs need work. My GPA is not weighted. My dad is in the Army National Guard full time and a family member has a terminal illness in his family (my step-sister) so I am not sure how that would factor into my financial aid package. I have a 504 test plan through my school (testing accomidations) and I requested accomidations to the college board. I was thinking Dartmouth would be a big reach but I have a good friend that goes there and I visited him and loved it. Do any of you think Vassar, Bowdoin or Colby are good options?</p>

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<p>can u check mine please?</p>

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<p>I think schools like Hamilton, Colgate, Bucknell, and Colby would be more within range to be totally honest.</p>

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<p>Your father’s income/assets will be considered for FA purposes. Unless you know for certain that your father will pay whatever the school deems his EFC to be going ED may be a financial risk for you because FA is based on how much the school feels they can afford to pay (not how much they are willing to pay). However, if the combined income of both your parents is below $75k, then you would still have free tuition if you were to attend Dartmouth.</p>

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<p>A 1260/1600 SAT I makes Dartmouth a somewhat unrealistic option in your case.To apply to a reach school in a strong fashion, you might want to consider selecting schools that match your verifiable interests, passions & accomplishments. With a 720 CR score and a 750 SAT II score, you are highly intelligent and a great student in areas of interest to you. Apply RD to Dartmouth so that you have no regrets. Consider ED I or II to schools like Bowdoin (still a reach) or Davidson College outside of Charlotte, North Carolina. Skidmore College & Hamilton College may interest you as well. Kenyon College in Ohio is small but gorgeous and will love your CR & Writing scores on the SAT I. I love Dartmouth & Bowdoin and am quite familiar with Canton, N.Y. & SLU. Consider Davidson College (which is gorgeous but a bit conservative), Kenyon College (small & rural with amazing everything & gorgeous), Colgate Univ. is akin to a mixture of Bowdoin & Dartmouth, Grinnell College in Iowa. Hamilton, Skidmore & Colby as well. Denison in Ohio. Did you enjoy Middlebury Monterey language program? If so, then consider Middlebury as a reachable reach.</p>