<p>It looks like the poster mentioned only has 361 posts, so it would be difficult to read “the thousands” posted. However, post #53 (by said poster) was very well said. How was that offensive?</p>
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<p>Same is true for CC’s legion of Harvard haters. None of them ever have any direct experience with the school themselves. The vast majority of people who actually go there love the place. The haters always quote their nebulous friend, neighbor, or cousin, or repeat “what they’ve heard” or what “everybody knows.”</p>
<p>Old 07-10-2009, 04:09 AM #1
ring<em>of</em>fire
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<p>Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 361 </p>
<p>This is a copy of a previous posting date by ROF. Notice anything strange about the number of posts here 1sokkermom from ring<em>of</em>fire? Check the number of posts and compare it to his last. He’s suddenly stuck on 361 posts. Same number. Not sure why his numbers have changed but he’s posted thousands. Trust me on this. Just go to the Michigan board where he likes to hang out a lot. I agree with Dartmouth>Duke in this discussion as well.</p>
<p>^ Odd. I never really look at post counts. You brought it to my attention.</p>
<p>I also don’t usually go to the Michigan board. 
I usually look at this thread and the Parents one. My D is a Senior in High School and will be applying to colleges this fall. I am very interested in what actual students and parents have to say regarding schools that they are familiar with. To be honest, I don’t mind hearing from students who are over exuberant about their choice of school if they are truthful about the virtues (and vices) of said institution. (particularly if it is one that D will be looking at. :))</p>
<p>What I find difficult to understand is why some students constantly bad mouth schools that they know nothing about other than heresay. Coureur was spot on.</p>
<p>As a note, I have been on cc since my older child was looking at colleges. He graduated over a year ago. It is interesting that some of the same myths and negative perceptions about his college of choice are still constantly popping up on this board. Thankfully he was able to see through most of the unsubstantiated dribble, and still make the right choice for him. He had a great college experience. He would attend his school of choice again in a heartbeat.</p>
<p>rjk, I don’t think you know how to read post counts correctly. It’s going to say the same post count even on older threads. It’s sort of confusing, I know. But if you don’t believe me check your own old posts. You see he now has a post count of 362 after he created the LSAT thread?</p>
<p>So you’re saying ROF has made only 362 posts? My post count is 2,099. His post counts were in the thousands last time I looked.</p>
<p>Yea, I think so. How can you know he has over a thousand? You can only look back 14 pages which is roughly 200 posts.</p>
<p>It used to say his amount in old posts. Not sure how they got reset.</p>
<p>1sokkermom,</p>
<p>Post #53 was directed to me after I argued that there’s no evidence to prove Duke is more undergrad focus than many private peers. I made that point after the said poster claimed Duke is the “the most undergrad focused in the country”, along with Princeton and Dartmouth. The said poster threw in S/F ratio and class sizes. But the FACT is its S/F ratio and class sizes are far from anywhere near top-3. </p>
<p>When you said “anti-Duke bashing”, I hope you were not referring to my posts. Pointing out/criticizing baseless claims and “bashing” are two very different things.</p>
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Claiming your school is “the most undergraduate focused” implies ALL other schools are inferior in that area even though they are all of the same type (private research Us in this case), thereby “bad mouthing” other schools when clearly nobody can know that much.</p>
<p>Duke is a fine undergraduate institution, but not any more undergraduate oriented than Northwestern, Emory, Rice, Penn or Harvard in that regard.
Certainly not Dartmouth or Princeton.</p>
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<p>Do you really think ring<em>of</em>fire was thinking, "Oh, I better watch my diction carefully and put ‘one of the best,’ instead of listing schools that are similar in quality and saying that they have superior undergraduate focus? Give me a break.</p>
<p>I always see some of the same couple of people hating on Duke. The list posted earlier indicates that Duke is, through some form of measurement (find me a better one, and we’ll talk), one of the most undergraduate-focused schools. Stop bashing on a school just 'cause you don’t like one of the posters from there - that’s not rational or mature whatsoever. Duke is severely hated on by older posters as Duke is a RISING institution, and therefore older members don’t know it well enough. Many people base their comments off opinions, stereotypes, or out-dated facts. Yes, Duke is not “OMGHSDHAFGHDASFGHSAGFHSGFHA THE BEST SCHOOL IS IN THE WORLD FOR EVERYTHING,” but it is one of the best out there.</p>
<p>Btw, when I say that Duke is one of the best out there, I am putting an emphasis on an undergraduate education. I KNOW that some Cal alumni are going to come chop off my head and explode with “Cal has the best graduate departments across the board.” Yay, good for Cal. Kind of sucks to my friends there though, those who don’t have access to most of those amazing professors/departments at the undergraduate level. Ugh. </p>
<p>As a disclaimer, I do respect Cal and Michigan (and yes, Northwestern as well, Sam Lee) and I am probably applying there for graduate school. They are GREAT schools. But an undergraduate education and experience is DIFFERENT from a graduate one. </p>
<p>My point? Stop hating on Duke for impractical reasons.</p>
<p>I always love the undergrad teaching ranking that IB posted. It always infuriates most CC people b/c it upsets the status quo but does state the obvious. Some schools focus on teaching undergrads. Some focus on research. They are two different objectives that do overlap but are definitely not the same path.</p>
<p>If you are on this site to pick a highly specialized dept for grad school, ignore it. But if you are winding through the maze that is American higher education, then ignore it at your peril. If you dont think Brown and Dartmouth are different than Harvard or Columbia than USNWR has succeeded in getting you to suspend common sense. </p>
<p>I have a Nigerian millionaire to introduce you to.</p>
<p>eatsalot,</p>
<p>It was very clear that I had problem with “the most”, not “one of the most”. That’s exactly my point. Other posters (SeniorSlacker and danas) got it. How come you just missed the whole point? </p>
<p>I didn’t mention anything about Cal/Michigan. Please don’t bring the fight you have been having with their alums/students elsewhere to here.</p>
<p>^By the way, I don’t know what other “haters” said about Duke. But before you started adding me to that list, please note that I never said it’s not a fine or it’s not “one of” the best undergraduate institutions. Stats like test scores, premed placement rate…etc show that it is one of the best out there. But I would not hestitate to speak up when I see unconvincing, baseless, or exaggerated claims. Hope you see where I am coming from.</p>
<p>sokkermom:</p>
<p>My guess is two fold: 1) Duke’s location is in the south (and the predominant cc posters are northeasterners such that, like USNEws, anything not NE gets demerits); 2) Duke has big time D1 sports.</p>
<p>I was faced with the Duke vs. JHU vs. UChicago vs. Dartmouth decision this year.</p>
<p>I chose Dartmouth!</p>
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<p>Again, please provide a reliable source that corroborates that Dartmouth is better than Yale and Columbia for business placement. The number of “BB Summer Associates by Class” posted on an anonymous forum is certainly not verifiable. Dartmouth may be very good for business, but that doesn’t mean it’s better than Yale and Columbia in this regard, or even at the level of Harvard, Princeton, or Wharton.</p>
<p>^ Don’t be hating on Dartmouth :mad:</p>
<p>bluebayou,</p>
<p>You may have a point. S was about as “northeastern” as you could get. Interestingly, he didn’t necessarily want to go to a school in the northeast after attending a northeast prep school. Living in a different geographic region was part of the experience…;)</p>