<p>^ there's a big difference between having regular man hair and being extremely hairy...she didn't say hairless, she said doesn't like extreme hair...I think most girls don't. we don't want a guy less hairy than we are, and I'm personally turned off by guys who overgroom, but gorilla's are a turn-off.</p>
<p>no one at all thinks guys who smoke cigarettes are kinda sexy? i mean, i'd definitely prefer them to do it only socially (like, when they party), and i don't smoke myself, but as long as we're not living together & he's chainsmoking in the living room, it kinda turns me on.</p>
<p>Better put your flame suit on, there leah. You're 'bout to get a lotta heat for that one.</p>
<p>'no one at all thinks guys who smoke cigarettes are kinda sexy? i mean, i'd definitely prefer them to do it only socially (like, when they party), and i don't smoke myself, but as long as we're not living together & he's chainsmoking in the living room, it kinda turns me on." </p>
<p>So you'd want to guy to destroy his health just so that you can get turned on? It's like men asking girls to get boob jobs and anorexia nervosa.</p>
<p>whoa there. i didn't say i prefer it if a guy smokes..in fact i said i'd prefer that he smoke only occasionally (if at all). yeah, it's kind of a turn-on to me, but i'd never force or pressure someone to START smoking..that would be totally ridiculous.</p>
<p>if i find out she is a feminist, we're done!</p>
<p>^^^ I also prefer my women to think they're the lesser sex. :rolleyes:</p>
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<p>Do you even know what feminism is? -.-;;</p>
<p>" if i find out she is a feminist, we're done! "</p>
<p>As long as they're not man-hating bra burners, whatever. Women with contempt for 50% of the population and feelings of gender superiority have no business with me.</p>
<p>anyone who believes men & women are equal (and that women have the rights to their own bodies) is a feminist.</p>
<p>Equality's a vague term. They're certainly not equal biologically or evolutionarily speaking. They differ significantly neurologically and psychologically too. "Equality" is a feel good term that's thrown around too often.</p>
<p>Yeah, I'd say it's the belief that men and women should have equal rights. If men and women were equal in every way sports would be co-ed.</p>
<p>e: And that women have rights to their own bodies.</p>
<p>2nd edit: The official definition is the belief that women and men should be economically, politically, and socially equal.</p>
<p>Social equality is the only can of worms I see. Men and women are different. Period. I don't buy the argument that gender roles are solely defined by society. That's oversimplified and ignores important aspects of evolution and psychology that may dictate roles.</p>
<p>There was already a thread about that, but basically biological gender roles are pointless in a civilized society and we're already starting to evolve out of them.</p>
<p>ORLY? Thousands of years of ingrained traits/behaviors "evolving out" in a few generations?</p>
<p>haha logicwarrior!</p>
<p>ccc88, I agree that equality is a vague term. Equality in many realms reduces competition and seeks to punish success.</p>
<p>oh, the funniest stuff is when/ if a girl tries arguing that man are not inherently tougher or something like that. Men in general are just biologically more physically-able for a variety of tasks. If that was not so then the olympics would have men racing women.</p>
<p>Previously, men worked while women stayed at home because men were physically stronger. Now that most jobs don't require physical strength gender roles are completely obsolete. And it's not a few generations either, the transition from an agricultural/manufacturing economy to a service-based one took a long time.</p>
<p>How come we're talking about equality here?</p>
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<p>agreed. in our modern society there really is no logical reason to socialize children to behave a certain way in order to subscribe to constructed gender roles. </p>
<p>also, it's true that in the past it was necessary that men do more physically laborious work, but that's definitely not a reason to be androcentric..the contributions of both men & women were different but equally valuable. these days, with the advent of technology and the evolution of american society into a service- and white-collar based economy, men and women are certainly capable of contributing to society in the exact same ways.</p>
<p>haha chain smoking => feminism</p>
<p>leah, i'm pretty sure the person who commented after you was just being devil's advocate and actually had a pretty good idea of what you meant so you don't even need to defend your own preferences in any way</p>