<p>Has she visited each campus? If not she needs to. A visit should be spent on/near campus, not at the beach. She should be comparing not only academics but libraries and other on campus things. She should find out what the social atmosphere is at both places- how important is Greek life and other activities- do they mesh with her ideas?</p>
<p>I disagree with those who say IU is better overall than UM. Are you kidding? The 25th/75th percentile ACT average score range at IU is 24-29, while at UM it’s 28-32. Overall, the student body at UM is significantly stronger. This should be important for the OP’s daughter, especially if she isn’t sure she wants to major in business (where Kelley is strong but not necessarily stronger than UM).</p>
<p>Also, this COMPLETELY misrepresents the weather in Miami: </p>
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<p>Yes, it is hot early and late in the school year. But guess what–the midwest has some very hot days well into September/early October as well, and Bloomington does not have the benefit of breezes off Biscayne Bay. There is NOT “brief heavy rain almost every day” of the academic year–it’s mostly in the April-October hurricane season. </p>
<p>If I were in the OP’s situation, I’d be hard pressed to deny my daughter her preference.</p>
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<p>Let’s be honest. Florida is hot and humid. The weather is pleasant. I enjoy it, but at least once a day I curse the elements for encroaching on my comfort while walking to classes. You WILL work up a sweat walking to class in the mornings. 60% of the school year you will be wearing warm weather attire. That same 60% you can expect to sweat. Embrace it.</p>
<p>There IS rain. Sure, hurricane season is only from April to October, but you can count on rain coming down at 2 pm every day for that period. </p>
<p>I don’t feel we should fantasize the weather in Florida. It’s hot, humid, and rainy. But at the same time, it’s sunny, and breezy. Enjoy it for it is. I would say the quoted weather for Miami is pretty honest for what it says. </p>
<p>Kelley has a much, much better reputation than Miami. You can’t look at scores as a main comparison factor. IU is a public school and will have lower average scores. Most applicants take SAT at IU. Miami is a decent school. </p>
<p>You did let her apply to both schools, right? That means that both are acceptable to you, or at least conditionally acceptable if the net price after scholarships and financial aid is affordable, right?</p>
<p>S2 was auto admitted to UNC-CH’s business school without having applied. It was one of several “gift” choices" offered to some admitted freshmen with very high statistics. Other choices included money towards a semester or minimester abroad. It has been a few years, and I don’t remember every choice. Auto-admit without having applied does happen.</p>
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<p>MOWC, if you are just comparing business schools I might not disagree. You’d have to go department by department to convince me that IU is stronger overall, though.</p>
<p>As for the students, the student body IS stronger at Miami–I don’t see how anyone could argue with that. Using SATs instead of ACTs, the numbers continue to bear out my claim:</p>
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IU: 1560/1890
UM: 1820/2110</p>
<p>I also stand by my position that people are misrepresenting the weather. MOST of hurricane season occurs when students are home for the summer. And there is plenty of great weather during that time too. It can rain hard but it also tends to pass quickly. Miami’s weather is not the same as that of inland Florida or places up the Gulf Coast. The weather is generally blissful between November and March–warm, sunny but not oppressively humid.</p>
<p>^^^I agree, the “Suntan U” days are long gone. Miami has a very strong student body with 74% of admitted students graduating in the top 10% of their class, 50% in the top 5%.</p>
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<p>Not to nitpick, but it’s the opposite. Most of hurricane season is late August through October. In fact, Hurricane Andrew (first named storm in 1992) hit Miami on Aug 24, which was move-in day that year. Katrina hit Florida and Louisiana after classes already started. Wilma hit Florida on Oct 24. The list goes on. South Florida is hit by tropical storms almost every year after school starts.</p>
<p>I don’t mean to say hurricanes should be a deterrent to attending any school, I’m just pointing out that the great weather of Miami is not all perfection. Weather should not be the main reason to choose a school.</p>
<p>I’m an IU alum (x3 - BS, MS, MBA).</p>
<p>I LOVED my time in Bloomington. (And in fact still now live only about 40 miles from campus). IU has a VERY strong business school and they do go above and beyond in their recruiting efforts doing thousands of on campus interviews for their business students annually. Bloomington is very much a ‘college town’ - it is very safe, and everything from stores to restaurants to nightlife is very accessible. I also think IU has a gorgeous campus.</p>
<p>And I’m not sure where in the midwest you’re from, but Bloomington has a milder winter, than even Indianapolis. It’s rare to get over a couple inches of snow at a time and then it generally warms to above freezing so that it melts before a few more inches might fall and there are usually only a few frigid days annually (this year being the exception!) Although after this winter, I do understand and I’m ready to head south, too! :)</p>
<p>But as much as I personally loved Bloomington, I agree with others that your daughter needs to find her own path. My own son, who wanted to get away from home is now in Alabama. I’d recommend visiting both schools if possible, and if concerned about the winter weather, visit IU soon, so you can see it during it’s worst. </p>
<p>I also agree with verifying your daughter’s admission to Kelley, as it would be very odd for her to be admitted without applying.</p>
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<p>Less so though. I never lived in Miami but I lived in Sanford FL until 2005 and Ann Arbor MI from 2005-2013. In Ann Arbor you’re not going to see 100F heat index in September ever, not even 90F. You might see 80F but that would be an especially hot day. You could easily see that in September in Sanford. September is certainly more pleasant in Ann Arbor than in Sanford, and presumably the same comparison would exist for Bloomington (with similar weather to Ann Arbor) and Miami (with similar weather to Sanford). </p>
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<p>Perhaps true, but after a few truly national undergrad b-schools (Wharton & Sloan, and perhaps Stern, Ross & Haas), all b-schools are local. Thus, Kelley’s rep is only important for those who want to seek jobs in the midwest.</p>
<p>fwiw: SAT/ACT: IMO, a better proxy for strength of student body is % of students in top decile of HS class:</p>
<p>IU = 34%
The U = 69% (2x as much)</p>
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<p>The Class of 2013 accepted employment offers in 29 states, the District of Columbia, and 5 countries worldwide. While the greatest concentration of graduates is in the Midwest, there are many Kelley graduates working in Florida, Georgia, Texas, and California, as well as the top cities shown below.
(<a href=“Undergraduate Career Services | Undergraduate Career Services | Indiana Kelley”>Undergraduate Career Services | Undergraduate Career Services | Indiana Kelley)</p>
<p>Each year we coordinate:</p>
<p>•Recruiting visits by more than 300 companies
•Over 10,000 on-campus student interviews
•Job listings posted by 700+ employers
(<a href=“Undergraduate Career Services | Undergraduate Career Services | Indiana Kelley”>Undergraduate Career Services | Undergraduate Career Services | Indiana Kelley)</p>
<p><a href=“Undergraduate Career Services | Undergraduate Career Services | Indiana Kelley”>Undergraduate Career Services | Undergraduate Career Services | Indiana Kelley;
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<li>Once again, not trying to sell anyone on IU, just trying to dispute ‘Kelley’s rep is only important for those who want to seek jobs in the midwest’.</li>
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<p>But MOST of the academic year is “certainly more pleasant” in Miami than in Bloomington. Also, the weather in Miami is NOT the same as Sanford, which is in landlocked central Florida. I forget where Niquii lives but it might also be in that area. I grew up in Miami and my family is still there. None of us would ever consider living in central Florida, and the weather is part of the reason. It’s much muggier and the heat is more oppressive that far inland, away from the ocean breezes.</p>
<p>I have to say, I find it amusing trying to defend the weather in one of the most desirable travel destinations in the U.S.–which is also one of the leading locations for expensive outdoor commercial photo shoots for companies from all over the world. As for whether UM is a better fit than IU, of course it depends on the students’ goals and preferences. IU is known as a party school in the same way UM is known for attracting a lot of rich kids who want to work on their tans. There are pros and cons to both.</p>
<p>Bluebayou- you are incorrect. Indiana Kelley has national reach.</p>
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<p>Sorry, I should have been more clear. Rep is relative, and the Kelley rep diminishes the farther one resides from Bloomington. For example, I have no doubt that Kelley is a much better school than say, a Cal State, but the fact is that a Kelly grad won’t be considered any “better” than a Cal State grad to most California employers. Of course, USC grads predominate in SoCal, and Haas grads in NorCal.</p>
<p>And course, the Big Four accounting firms hire from nearly every undergrad biz college. </p>
<p>Another IU grad here (x 3), the parent of one grad and one current student. I wanted to let my bias be known upfront. As others have said, it’s highly unlikely she would have been a direct admit to Kelley unless the “Business” box was checked off. Perhaps it was an accident? Students compete for those direct admits yearly. Just take a look at the IU forum. Kelley isn’t just handing them out randomly. The school doesn’t need to do so. </p>
<p>As far as the weather, we found the difference between B-ton and the rest of the Midwest (or at least Chicago) different enough that we chose to relocate here. It’s not Miami, but it is typically in the 40’s this time of year. </p>
<p>I won’t get into the Kelley and IU versus Miami arguments. The factors that make Kelley and IU a better choice, if it was her choice, have already been stated. </p>
<p>Clearly you need to go visit Miami right now! :-)</p>
<p>Agreeing with the Kelley grads upstream. I would absolutely verify that this student’s acceptance to Kelley as an auto admit is not some sort of error. Or…check the application you submitted to see if your daughter DID check the business school box.</p>
<p>I honestly think an auto admit to Kelley in the absence of applying is unlikely.</p>
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Nope, I have never lived in a landlocked city in Florida. Both my hometown and university is on the coast. I do, however, have plenty of experience in several areas in Florida, landlocked and coastal. The weather overall is pleasant, yes. But it sucks at times, too. It’s the honest truth. </p>
<p>A college student will be spending their time walking around and about outside at varying points of the day. Might as well be honest with what they’re going to experience. </p>