DCTAG-Am I the Only One Enraged?

<p>This is silly. If the money was spent to build, run, and supervise a quality “in-state” university for DC, it could easily cost MORE than ten grand a year per student. This program is a good deal for everybody.</p>

<p>DC was built taking land from both VA and MD. But DC residents don’t get instate privileges at either state, as far as I know, certainly not instate tuition rates. Seems easier to me to just give those kids going to OOS schools, many choosing schools in either MD or VA, just the way the stats work, $10K towards that tuition and any other OOS publics. For once, government took a quick, easy fix, IMO.</p>

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<p>Honestly, of all the crap our government wastes money on, subsidizing education should be the LEAST of anyone’s concerns. </p>

<p>$10,000 discount doesn’t seem like enough to offset difference between in & out of state.
They should probably increase it.</p>

<p>Part of the reason that Congress contributes to the DC budget, including paying the $10,000, is because so much of the District’s land is occupied by buildings that are nontaxable and made so by Congress. DC residents pay very high taxes. </p>

<p>The University of DC has about 5200 undergrads. That’s probably about 1500 freshman. Unlikely that’s enough to satisfy in-city demand for slots. I don’t know the physical layout of the school, if there’s room for expansion or anywhere to build a satellite campus within DC but that likely would cost a lot more than this subsidy. I have no problem with the few cents a year, if that, of my tax dollars that go toward this. I’m also certainly not jealous of these folks with otherwise very limited public choices, especially if it helps keep some living within DC.</p>

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<p>Depends on which school. UMDCP has a difference of about $19,000 between in-state and out-of-state. But University of Minnesota - Morris has a difference of $0 between in-state and out-of-state.</p>

<p>I wonder how in state residents feel about that?</p>

<p><a href=“http://osse.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/osse/publication/attachments/dctag-10-year-accomplishments-report.pdf”>http://osse.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/osse/publication/attachments/dctag-10-year-accomplishments-report.pdf&lt;/a&gt; does list the most popular schools. Here they are, and the difference between in and out of state tuition:</p>

<p>Montgomery College: $1,530 or $3,632 (15 credits)
North Carolina A&T: $11,081
Trinity Washington: $0 (private, total tuition is $10,485)
Bowie State: $5,283.50
Delaware State: $8,356
Temple: $10,026
UMDCP: $19,186
Virginia State: $8,876
Virginia Commonwealth: $8,720 (new, 15 credits), $6,976 (continuing)
Norfolk State: $6,735</p>

<p>According to the link in the first post, DCTAG can only be applied to the in and out of state tuition difference at public schools (up to $10,000), or two year schools (up to $2,500), or private DC or HB schools (up to $2,500).</p>

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<p>Small nit, but methinks that the former swamp land was donated to the federal govt for free. (No takings, in this case.)</p>

<p>“I wonder how in state residents feel about that?”</p>

<p>There is no difference to an in state resident. The student from DC is an OOS student with a $10k grant. The DC student is charged the full OOS tuition and just uses the TAG to pay the tuition. If it doesn’t cover the full difference, the student must pay the difference. Most state schools are thrilled to have OOS students paying OOS tuition.</p>

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Fine, if D.C. residents paid for it out of local D.C. taxes. </p>

<p>Cost of DCTAG? The program aids more than 5,000 students each year, and it has brought more than $317 million to 20,000 students since its inception in 2000. This year, Congress appropriated $30 million for the program. (<a href=“http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/dc-council-to-vote-on-dc-promise-proposal/2014/02/04/d04c6da2-8da1-11e3-98ab-fe5228217bd1_story.html”>http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/dc-council-to-vote-on-dc-promise-proposal/2014/02/04/d04c6da2-8da1-11e3-98ab-fe5228217bd1_story.html&lt;/a&gt;)</p>

<p>Cost of the foreign income and housing exclusion? According to the Joint Committee on Taxation, the income and housing exclusions will cost $6 billion in 2014, or approximately $90 billion over the next ten years. Most of that cost (84 percent) is from the income exclusion. The Office of Management and Budget has a similar estimate: $6 billion in 2014. (<a href=“The Tax Break-Down: Foreign Earned Income Exclusion | Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget”>http://crfb.org/blogs/tax-break-down-foreign-earned-income-exclusion&lt;/a&gt;)</p>

<p>It’s very interesting that the top college on the list is Montgomery College.</p>

<p>Montgomery College is a community college with three campuses – all located in close-in DC suburbs in Maryland. It is not the most convenient thing in the world for students who live in DC to get there, but obviously they do – and they’re going there in preference to going to UDC. That’s because Montgomery College is a good community college, and UDC is a joke. </p>

<p>Yeah, I live in Montgomery County, and concur with Marian. UDC is awful.</p>

<p>Everything about Slacker’s post was win. :slight_smile: </p>

<p>I’m all with Slackermom on this. </p>

<p>So…move to DC! Have your kiddo take a year off of college, or a gap year. Become residents of DC. Then you can have this benefit too.</p>

<p>What Americans should be outraged about is the high cost of college tuition in the U.S., period! Not something like this. </p>

<p>I also live in MoCo and agree with Slackermom. The benefit to DC students is the least the government can do for them given the higher education options available in the city and the fact that DC citizens pay federal taxes without being able to vote for their representatives.</p>

<p>So apparently, yes you are the only one outraged by this but you can easily avail yourself of this benefit by moving to DC as suggested above.</p>