<p>@jkim94 Yes, you’re right. I also started a new thread with your post on how to contact the collegeboard here: <a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/sat-preparation/1252534-how-try-get-nutrition-label-problem-nullified.html#post13542701[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/sat-preparation/1252534-how-try-get-nutrition-label-problem-nullified.html#post13542701</a></p>
<p>Saying that “calories from fat” is not a subcategory of “calories” is saying that “calories from fat” is somehow not a calorie even though it’s “CALORIES from fat”. I don’t know how else to explain this simple concept that you are so determined can only be known if you know how a nutrition label works. Stop denying the fact that all of you are just mad and in denial about making an legitamite anticipated mistake</p>
<p>@grojos
Stop trying to downplay it by giving elemantary examples. Those are obvious and yes, many people will learn what teeth and cats and animals are thoughout their upbringing but how many people can give an accurate description of what a calorie is? Obviously not many, considering out country’s rising obesity rate. And again, when would anyone sit down with us and teach us how to read a nutrition label CORRECTLY? Ofcourse I have read a nutrition label before, but it is too obscure and targets knowledge that is too specific. What if the question required information on understanding how much of each element is in a compound? It could be in the exact same format as the nutrition label and involve arithmetic operations; however, it is not fair to assume all test takers have knowledge on chemistry, and even if they do, to expect them to remember how to perform the operation correctly.</p>
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It’s not my opinion. It’s how categories work. You use them every day. You have the category/forum of College Confidential, and the sub-category/forum of SAT prep. I really would hate to be you guy’s teacher. You missed a question. Maybe next you should know how categories work. btw, who here is an immigrant from Asia? I guess categories don’t exist there. </p>
<p>Why would Calories from Fat not count as Calories? They are still calories, just from fat. You don’t even have to know anything special to realize that, you just have to read the question. The only way in the world they are separate is on this forum.
Pigs: 20
Brown Pigs: 4</p>
<p>There’s no way you just read that as 24 pigs total. </p>
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No one is questioning why you are disgruntled. You missed a question and you guys want 800s. That makes sense. What doesn’t make sense is blaming it on the College Board. So far the only excuse I’ve seen is “What if you are from Asia.” You guy’s are not from Asia. You can’t try to repeal a question on the basis of someone else who ISN’T complaining.
You’re example is also faulty. Not many people who are even from America know what a Lithium Polymer is. But I guarantee you there was no one who looked at the problem and said, “What’s a calorie?” And if you did, then this specific problem was no where near your biggest issue on the test.
Perhaps if it was this:
A lawnmower:
100 quarts of gas and oil
25 quarts of oil</p>
<p>The math section doesnt just test your raw ability to do math, it tests your ability to extract information from word problems. I’m SURE that any international student that can’t speak english well would have a harder time with ANY OTHER STORY PROBLEM in the math sections. You guys are just trying to hitch a ride with these “international students”, who BTW aren’t complaining.</p>
<p>@the people who are trying to nullify this question.</p>
<p>You DISGUST me. Just because you got this wrong, you have to go on on a rant to try to make a case. Suck it up. Your going to hurt me and all of the majority who got the question right. Selfish aholes.</p>
<p>@Stonesn We really disgust you? First, a lot of people got this wrong, and it was heavily debated in the math sat section. A majority of people probably got this question wrong, so we aren’t hurting the majority (unless you are referring to the College Confidential majority, which of course MUST BE APPEASED).</p>
<p>@don By the growing obesity rate in America, I would probably guess many Americans are not familiar with nutrition labels. It’s not just Asia, but everyone.</p>
<p>@miceman</p>
<p>O ya? Just because you and the “a lot of people” can’t comprehend a simple label it means that it has to be changed??? I never look at a nutritional label–infact, it was one of the first times I actually looked at one in depth. So don’t get all butthurt about it.</p>
<p>The ability to read nutrition labels is what separates the good from the great.</p>
<p>Sorry, but I’m not sure this will go through. Think about how many complaints they get- virtually none of them get changed. I can see why the problem could be potentially confusing, but I just don’t think it will be thrown out.</p>
<p>Wow reading a nutrition label seems to really be a rare and unusual skill, perfect for my college app :D</p>
<p>@HSClass- lolol I was thinking the same thing. Apparently those of us who have attained such an uncommon skill are in the minority and should therefore make known our special ability. I better call USC and let them know I now have a hook.</p>
<p>@donn036
How can you say my example is too difficult? I could say yours is too easy. And I guarentee you (while there is noway to prove it) that at least half of you do not know what an accurate description of a calorie is. And don’t bother posting it on here because there is no way to prove that you did or did not just google it.</p>
<p>@everyone bashing us
You guys are the biggest hypocrites I’ve seen. If you don’t agree with us, that is your opinion. Calling us names and saying we “disgust” you shows that you obviously, deep down inside you, believe we have a legitimate shot at nullifying it because you KNOW that it is a fauty question. If not, and you KNEW there was no way for it to get nullified, you wouldn’t be getting so defensive and probably wouldn’t bother to post. It seems like you guys are the ones getting “butthurt” over this issue, because, honestly, it wouldn’t be the end of the world for me if it doesn’t get repealed, but I feel as though it was unfair, and I have the right to voice my opinion. ALSO, stop saying our only arguement is international students, if you bothered to read our other posts, there are plenty more reasons. AND since when did you guys decide you can play god and know who is and isn’t an immigrant over the internet? Hell, if I was a non-fluent English speaking immigrant, I probably wouldn’t even know of CC. Who is to say they didn’t independently email Collegeboard?</p>
<p>LASTLY, how the hell would you guys know that nullifying the question would hurt you? I’m guessing none have you have experienced it happening so we have no idea how they would do it, but I am almost positive they wouldn’t punish people that got it right. Who is to say they won’t just add a point to everyone’s raw score? You are all making accusations without even backing it up with reasoning.</p>
<p>And to Seahawks504, you are the only person who doesn’t agree but isn’t an idiot. You are entitled to your opinion and I am to mine, and I’m glad you respect that.</p>
<p>jkim’s argument is actually really good, but I still think there is next to no chance of action being taken on the test results. If they did take action, it would probably be an offer to cancel his test scores if he wishes. </p>
<p>Still, if people are that upset over one problem, I’m assuming they are trying for an 800. With this assumption in mind, I will further assume they are trying for a tippy top school. Perhaps it is in the students interest to receive a lower score and realize that they should in fact gain some practical skills, rather than pure “scholastic” knowledge. </p>
<p>I pity those of you who graduate from an ivy and are still unable to tie your own shoes.</p>
<p>guys CHILLLLLL!
I don’t understand how getting a question nullified hurts those who got it right… Please explain this to me.</p>
<p>I am one of those people who made a mistake on this question, and I would appreciate if you all e-mail collegeboard and help us out. I was under the assumption that this community was set up to provide support. I don’t see the value in unnecessary fighting.</p>
<p>I"m all ears to constructive criticism, but those of you using profanity and demeaning diction should stop as it doesn’t do anything useful. I acknowledge that I made a mistake, but there is truth that this question could have been misconstrued.</p>
<p>@jkim About not knowing what a calorie is: it’s a measure of heat and is somehow applied to food. About being defensive: I don’t want to meddling of some random people to have a chance of affecting my score, if the question is nullified, it’s possible that people’s scores who got it right would increase and affect the curve. It may not, but let’s not leave it to chance. And yes, I am getting butthurt about the fact that you are all so butthurt about a simple SAT math question, and are willing to possibly f-up some people’s scores. About majority/minority: suppose only a minority of people on CC got the question right: THERE’S A WHOLE WORLD OUT THERE OUTSIDE OF SCHOOL AND CC a world of people who have enough common sense to get this simple question right</p>
<p>@Nihility
I appreciate your opinion, but it’s not just about getting an 800. Say you missed a legitimatey hard question, such as perhaps the marble one (since that one seems to have tricked a lot of people), then you would have something like a 770, then you come to find out you missed this too, all because you didn’t understand the label, then your score would be even lower. Fact of the matter is, nobody wants to lose points, at any score range. The difference between a 720 and 690 are pretty significant, in my opinion and probably in many college’s opinions. Also, while you may think knowing how to read a nutrition label is practical knowledge, I obviously didn’t. This is due to my high metabolism, so I’ve never really cared to watch my calories, whereas some of you might have, which is an unfair advantage. Also… go look at any nutrition label and explain to me why they say TOTAL FAT AND TOTAL CARBS and have subsets of those, but they only say CALORIES and CALORIES FROM FAT? :(</p>
<p>There is absolutely no way more than 1% of all test takers will complain about this question to collegeboard. Complaining to them will get you absolutely nowhere. I’ve had complaints of my own, but my efforts are more useful if put into my application essays or studying for a test at school. Just forget it…</p>
<p>Edit- Lol at you now seemingly trying to insult those of us who got it right by insinuating that we are obese. I guess I am. 6ft. 2" and 180 means I definitely have to dwell on those nutrition labels before I choose my snack. -_-</p>
<p>I have a high metabolism too, but I check nutrition facts because I like to know what’s going into my body. You are what you eat. If you eat good, you’ll feel good. People who count calories or measure out their food are dumb, it’s all in the ingredients and what you eat.</p>