<p>@grojos
lol… I mean, did you bother to read my WHOLE post? If indeed, the people who got it right are a minority, THEN IT SHOULD BE CHANGED and it shows YOU ARE BEING SELFISH. That is like saying you found a glitch in a website and got tons of free products, and you don’t want people who didn’t get them to report to the company the glitch. Besides, like I said, we have no idea how they would nullify it, but I am pretty sure they wouldn’t penalize those who got it right. Calling us selfish is totally hypocritical…</p>
<p>@Nihility
I re-read my post and apologize, I didn’t mean it like that, I’m just saying it as a general idea. Besides 6’2" and 180 is slightly underweight or average so be happy! :P</p>
<p>@grojos
You just insulted people that are agreeing with you, like Nihility. Good job!</p>
<p>Did you comprehend my post? I was saying that if many people on CC got it wrong, it’s irrelevant because the rest of the world has more practical knowledge, and most probably got it right.</p>
<p>If a problem gets nullified, everyone gets a free point. Three times in the past, a question has been thrown out in the writing MC. All three tests had gentle scales too.</p>
<p><a href=“http://www.erikthered.com/tutor/SAT-Released-Test-Curves.pdf[/url]”>http://www.erikthered.com/tutor/SAT-Released-Test-Curves.pdf</a></p>
<p>Scroll to the writing MC scores. Questions were removed on 10/2005, 5/2006 and 5/2011.</p>
<p>In short, if you got it right, nothing will happen if the question is removed. If you got it wrong, you get a free point.</p>
<p>If indeed jim94’s well-construted argument is taken into account, and the question gets eliminated, I highly doubt that it would impact the scores of the people who would have gotten it right anyway.</p>
<p>Think about it this way…</p>
<p>You have 0 wrong and are at an 800. Then this question gets eliminated/nullified… Collegboard isn’t going to knock you down to a 770 because THEY made a faulty question. No, your score will remain at 800. So why is everyone against this…?</p>
<p>Edit:
someguy3084 has data to prove this…</p>
<p>@jkim you tried to make yourself sound disadvantaged because of your advantage of high metabolism, and I was saying that it shouldn’t matter because people shouldn’t count calories anyway</p>
<p>@theking suppose you got ONE question wrong, the curve is very harsh for math</p>
<p>It is highly unlikely that those who got this right are in the “minority”, even with the unintelligent nature of the general public. The average sat math score is a 514, so apparently most people are struggling over MANY questions. The first 5-10 on each section are probably completed correctly by most test takers, but we cannot look at minorities and majorities in this way. </p>
<p>If you truly want to determine how this one question affected the general test taking population, you would have to look at those test takers who typically get these concepts and these early problems correct. Even then, people who score 700+ occasionally miss a question with a difficulty of “2” or “3” as the collegeboard rates difficulty (scale of 1-5). Further, individual test takers struggle with specific types of SAT problems, such as probability, geometry, or algebra (Personally I miss more algebra than anything). CB will simply not care enough about one question and they do not have the time or resources to perform an adequate investigation, therefore your attempts to get this question nullified will ultimately be fruitless. Wake up and come back to reality.</p>
<p>@grojos … Yes, and that is why we are trying to get an unfair question eliminated. I do not wish to lose ~30/40 point for a potentially faulty question.</p>
<p>Oh and nice job Nihility… I’m sure that calling the public unintelligent will make them want to listen to you!</p>
<p>@theking- For those of us who are around the 700 range in Math (weakest area), slight alterations in the curve can significantly impact scores. I will be happy with a 700, but I think I missed 5 and ommitted 1, so it will be close.</p>
<p>@king but I don’t want to POSSIBLY lose 30-40 points, and I got the question right, therefore me losing points is more important than you losing points</p>
<p>Nihility if you did indeed get this question right, it should not matter to you whether the question will be eliminated or not… You will be unaffected.</p>
<p>It will only matter to those of us who incorrectly answered the question.</p>
<p>grojos: please try to read. Please. If you answered the question correctly, your score will NOT be impacted.</p>
<p>@king the worse you do the better i look, they’re not going to hand out points like that</p>
<p>grojos says- “It is not enough for me to succeed. Others must also fail.”</p>
<p>Oh dear… here we go again. Selfishness. You guys called us selfish, but who is truly being selfish? Man you guys truly are hypocrites. It’s a shame…</p>
<p>I think the reason that all of you are so vehemently opposed to the prospect of this question being nullified is because you truly believe that we have a valid point. I think you should set aside your dreams of beating everyone else (@grojos) and instead focus on the idea that this question really may be unfair.</p>
<p>I think we have some negatives mixed up here. For those who got the question wrong: your score is set, you are only trying to improve it. But i am worried that by other people’s score improving, the curve may be shifted and my score not as valuable (or lower)</p>
<p>I never called anybody selfish…
I know that I am selfish with my SAT scores. I agree with the quote I posted, which is why I have no friends in my school. If everybody has a 2400 they sure become meaningless pretty quick.</p>
<p>@grojos- That is the assumption most of us have taken. If a problem becomes “free”, the curve must be negatively affected.</p>
<p>If I recall correctly, someone posted on CC a few years back that the curves for the SAT were preset. I think that is why the Collegeboard does experimental sections. If that is true, then eliminating a question does not impact the curve.</p>
<p>The bottom line is, the worse the scores of other test takers, the better our scores will look. A very selfish point, but very true. We have practical knowledge and used it on the exam. Some of you didn’t, and should therefore be penalized for it.</p>
<p>For the record, I am also an immigrant. Moved here from France two years ago.</p>