deceptively low acceptance rates

<p>This is an interesting phenomenon. For example, I have never heard of anybody (at my academic level, at least) that has been rejected by SDSU (San Diego State) despite its 30% acceptance rate. Same thing with Cal Poly SLO...</p>

<p>Paine College in GA has SAT CR and M 25/75 ranges of 350-440, is described as “less selective,” yet claims an acceptance rate of under 37%. I’ve always thought that was odd, and wondered if perhaps their criteria for what constitutes an “application” was very broad.</p>

<p>hmm
what kind of person gets rejected from these colleges? what are the applicant pools like compared to more selective colleges (without taking admit rates into consideration)?</p>

<p>State schools like SDSU are committed to serving students in their area. Because of that, it’s MUCH easier for students in the San Diego area to get in than students in other areas. I live in Northern California, and a lot of kids from my school got rejected from SDSU.</p>

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<p>On this board, perhaps we forget that not everyone is or should be college-bound.</p>

<p>Also, on this board, we have a tendency to conflate selectivity with a school’s quality. Mount Holyoke College is one of the top colleges in the nation, and its acceptance rate is 53%! Why? Probably because its applicants are a relatively self-selecting crowd. Not only is their applicant pool cut in half despite it being not much smaller than most co-ed liberal arts colleges, there are also many women who won’t apply because they don’t want to go to an “all-girls school”. A lot of top women’s colleges suffer from this – Bryn Mawr has a 49% acceptance rate; Smith’s is 48%, Scripps’ is 43% and even Wellesley, which is in the top 5, has a 36% acceptance rate. By comparison, Amherst’s is 15% and Williams’ is 17%, and Swarthmore’s is 16%.</p>

<p>So why does it happen the other way around? There are probably a variety of factors. Let’s take SDSU for instance – it’s a fair-to-middling public university, with just about average stats as far as SAT scores and GPA goes. It’s also relatively inexpensive for California state residents, and is well-known in the Western region. A lot of very top students, or even just above-average students, may apply to SDSU as a ‘safety school’ in case they don’t get into their top schools or can’t afford, since it’s still a good school despite not being at the top. At the same time, a lot of average students are applying there as a match school. And a lot of below average students who would probably never apply to academically more rigorous UC-San Diego (who’s admission rate is actually higher at 42%) will apply to SDSU because they believe they have better chances of getting in there. In addition, you may have a lot of working adults who are trying to return to college trying to go to SDSU because they can’t afford UCSD – the in-state tuition at UCSD is more than twice that of SDSU’s.</p>

<p>San Diego State obviously can’t accept all of these people (they will number more than their first year class, of course).</p>

<p>Often it’s because they use the number of students that actually enrolled instead of the number of students that were accepted (much higher). VTech did that in one of their publications, and it took me a while to figure out why they had something like a 14% “acceptance” rate. ;)</p>

<p>My cousin, a 1600/1600 scorer, ranked third in his class of 250, was rejected by St. John’s College, which has an acceptance rate of 85 percent.</p>

<p>I still wonder what he could have written–or failed to write–to pull that off.</p>

<p>^ He was probably a really, really bad fit for St. John’s and showed that in his application. Maybe he said he wanted to major in something other than Liberal Arts, which is the only major offered, IIRC. Or maybe he said he hated being told what classes to take.</p>

<p>I tend to think that a low admissions rate doesn’t necessarily equal more difficult to gain admission, but that the correlation is sounder the other way around. Self-selective schools are still dealing with a smaller applicant pool and have less wiggle room to reject based on “holistic” factors. The women’s colleges are self-selecting, yes, but also significantly easier admits for a top female student than their coed educational equivalents.</p>

<p>College of the Ozarks has like a 12% acceptance rate.</p>

<p>Central Stae U, a historically african-american college with an ACT range of 14-18, has an acceptance rate of roughly 35 percent. Although I still view this college as one of Ohio’s greatest assets, the ACT range is quite puzzling.</p>

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<p>Apparently, if you randomly answered every question on the ACT you’re expected to get a score of 12
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<p>Well, you get 200 points on the SAT for essentially writing your name down. How hard do you have to work to get a 350? And 25% of all students in the OP’s post actually scored LOWER than 350
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<p>well I know for sure cal poly SLO is not a bad school at all, one of the best CSU
You have to look at the applicant pool, so many apply to CSU because there are no essays and no recs required at all! Some of the easiest applications! Pretty much every B student at my school applied to CalPoly and SDSU, around half got in</p>

<p>They have low acceptance rates because so many less qualified people apply</p>

<p>Delaware State has an acceptance rate of 39% and their average SAT scores are 390-470 (CR) and 390-480 (M). I guess they don’t have a high scoring applicant pool.</p>

<p>^ Yes. 99% of the students that I know–I live in northern Delaware, as do the majority of Delawareans–would rather attend CC or a branch campus of UD than DSU.</p>

<p>How about College of the Ozarks in Missouri. It is private and has an acceptance rate of 12% but a mid 50% ACT range of 21-26 and only 14% of its students graduate from the top 10% of their high school class.</p>

<p>Free tuition, only accepting EXTREMELY needy applicants justifies those stats for C of the Ozarks</p>

<p>Florida International University is considered to be one of the most selective in the state, 38% accepted. I don’t understand why.
The ACT range is only 21-24.
40% had h.s. GPA of 3.75 and higher
Mid 50% of SAT Scores:
Reading: 500 - 580<br>
Math: 500 - 590</p>

<p>^er
more prestigious maybe</p>