Decision: Michigan vs. Wisconsin

<p>PorterGoBlue, it's extremely hard to gain in-state residency in Michigan. You would literally have to graduate from a Michigan high school to qualify. Unfortunately, some selective public universities tend to have unfavorable financial aid packages for OOS students. Good luck.</p>

<p>Unless you move there two years in advance and work it's impossible to get instate.</p>

<p>really? For most states you only have to live there for 6 months in order to become a resident. I could manage to pay one year of full tuition maybe two. Hopefully there has to be some way that is quicker.</p>

<p>PorterGoBlue, I will list the requirements for in-state residency. Michigan is TOUGH.</p>

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The following circumstances and activities, though not conclusive or exhaustive, may lend support to a claim to eligibility for resident classification if all other applicable Guidelines are met:</p>

<pre><code>* both parents/parents-in-law (in the case of divorce, one parent/parent-in-law) permanently domiciled in Michigan as demonstrated by permanent employment in the state, establishment of a primary household in Michigan, and severance of out-of-state ties. Applicant must also show severance of out-of-state ties.
* applicant employed in Michigan in a full-time, permanent position, provided that the applicant's employment is the primary purpose for his or her presence in the state and that out-of-state ties have been severed. If the applicant is married or has a partner, the employment must be the primary purpose for the family's presence in Michigan.
* spouse or partner employed in Michigan in a full-time, permanent position, provided that the employment of the spouse or partner is the primary purpose for the family's presence in the state and that out-of-state ties have been severed.
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Circumstances that do not demonstrate permanent domicile</p>

<p>The circumstances and activities listed below are temporary or indeterminate and do not demonstrate permanent domicile. Individuals whose presence in Michigan and claim to Michigan resident status are based solely on one or more of the following are not eligible for resident classification:</p>

<pre><code>* enrollment in high school, community college, or university.
* participation in a medical residency program, fellowship, or internship.
* employment that is temporary or short-term or of the type usually considered an internship or apprenticeship.
* employment of the spouse or partner of an individual who is in Michigan for temporary pursuits.
* employment in a position normally held by a student.
* military assignment in Michigan for the applicant or the applicant's spouse, partner, or parent (see section D for special military provision).
* payment of Michigan income tax and/or filing of Michigan resident income tax returns.
* presence of relatives (other than parents).
* ownership of property or payment of Michigan property taxes.
* possession of a Michigan driver's license or voter’s registration.
* possession of a Permanent Resident Alien visa.
* continuous physical presence for one year or more.
* statement of intent to be domiciled in Michigan.
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<p>Residency</a> - Office of the Registrar</p>

<p>Both are great schools, though University of Michigan- Ann Arbor would be a better pick ( my opinion).</p>

<p>So can permanent employment be through the university? work-study program?</p>

<p>No, and it is just as tough to get residency for tuition purpose in Wisconsin.</p>

<p>Hehe, this was the same decision I had to make when I was picking colleges. I chose UW. They were similar in many ways, except that UW had a lower cost for tuition for me. Either way, you will be at an excellent institution. Best of luck.</p>

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really? For most states you only have to live there for 6 months in order to become a resident.

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<p>As others have shown you, this is absolutely NOT the case for Michigan. UNless you can show you moved to Michigan for a purpose OTHER than going to school here, you are a nonresident and will remain a nonresident.</p>

<p>I know most states & institutions aren't as hardlined as U-M, but the policy you describe is pretty freewheeling; I'm surprised to hear that most states have the six-month requirement. Do you have a source on that?</p>

<p>Go to OSU and save your money for grad school.</p>

<p>To be honest I always find it amazing that so many OOS students apply to Michigan and decide to go there. There must be a reason.</p>

<p>National Reputation. Their parents have money. Legacy advantage? (Most Michigan alumni do not live in Michigan)</p>

<p>It used to amaze me too--I always thought that for the price, nonresidents should find a private university which would likely offer a more intimate environment for the money. But from what I've heard students say they're attracted to Michigan because it offers the whole package--a national reputation AND a big campus experience, complete with a rah-rah sports program. If that's what you want, and you have the $$ to afford OOS tuition, then Michigan offers what few other institutions can.</p>

<p>Keep in mind that the largest OOS populations at Michigan are California, NY-NJ-CT, Florida and Illinois (Chicagoland). These are NOT poor states. In fact admissions is so competitive in their home states that they're willing to pay $$$ for Michigan because it has a solid national reputation. If you can't attend an Ivy or UC school, Michigan is your next best alternative.</p>

<p>Unlike the UCs, Michigan is more accommodating of OOS residents (35% total campus population).</p>

<p>I would say that was an accommodation born out of necessity. UM (and the UW too) have long relied on the $$$$ from OOS students to offset stingy state funding.</p>

<p>I second hoedown's analysis. Michigan is very well rounded. Here are a few reasons why:</p>

<p>1) It is located in the heart of what many consider one of the most charming and fun college towns in the country</p>

<p>2) Not only is Ann Arbor awesome, but it is conveniently located 20 miles away from one of the largest airports in the country and the town and gown relations are excellent. t</p>

<p>3) The campus is impresive and lively</p>

<p>4) school spririt and athletic tradition are second to none</p>

<p>5) The alumni network is huge, very powerful and exceptionally loyal</p>

<p>6) Reputationally and academically, Michigan is among the very best universities in the nation.</p>

<p>7) With the 6th largest university endowment, Michigan has the resources to cater to most student needs.</p>

<p>In short, Michigan is one of the most well rounded universities in the nation. I can only think of a handful of schools that can match Michigan in terms of overall undergraduate experience.</p>

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I would say that was an accomodation born out of necessity. UM (and the UW too) have long relied on the $$$$ from OOS students to offset stingy state funding.

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Berkeley plans on doing the same due to decreased funding...although not the 35% OOS at Michigan or Wisconsin, it plans to boost OOS students from 10% to 13.5% by next year. While overall enrollment will be held steady, expect more admission offers to OOS students this year.</p>

<p>The UCs don't need to increase their OOS enrollment substantially. There are many UCs that serve the state residents. The state's youth population is also growing (unlike other states in the Midwest and East Coast).</p>

<p>I wonder if Michigan will continue to increase it's out of state enrollment? I believe that top state schools from the midwest like U-M and UW will need to get more students from OOS to remain academically competitive.</p>