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<p>Fine when Penn (and others) post this sort of thing on their website, what you’ve mentioned will be a lot more reasonable. </p>
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<p>Re post 480: Because she has been warned that she can be identified. I suggest we lay off this young person. She is someone’s daughter.</p>
<p>Whatever her motivation was in getting herself into this situation, I am feeling sorry for her at this point, and I am done with this thread.</p>
<p>I agree, I’d hate to think that her coming here asking for parental advice did her real damage. We’re still dealing with kids.</p>
<p>ctyankee…I enjoyed your post.</p>
<p>I agree, we need to leave the OP alone. Technically she did nothing wrong with the MIT application and technically she doesn’t need to pull it until she works the financial aid with Penn out. Her only mistake, if it’s even a mistake, was to go to MIT board after her UPenn ED acceptance and post. That is only an error of judgement, nothing more, nothing less and she’s a young person. There are malicious kids and parents that love to “out” people. I wish her well however this works out as I do for (most) all the kids. And yes, she’s probably identifiable given stats, location, ECs etc.</p>
<p>Perhaps someone has already notified the MIT admissions officer who posts on CC. (No, I didn’t do it.) I don’t think any real damage could be done by someone other than the OP. MIT should find out by established procedures already in place that she was accepted ED to UPenn.</p>
<p>The OP was allowed to apply to MIT. Good luck to the OP.</p>
<p>I’m really annoyed by the comments that ED is “only” for the rich, unless it allows you to bail out for anything but a “very good” FA package. I knew my EFC would be difficult (not impossible but not fun, either) for my family to pay, so guess what? I applied to schools where I would be in the running for significant merit aid. That meant no Northwestern app, no WUSTL app (I actually probably should had gone for merit money here, in retrospect), no Harvard app (this was before HYP’s current generous FA policies). Did it change my list and my application process? Yes, but they were my choices, just as it was the OP’s choice to apply to UPenn. If the FA offered was really unmanagable, I could see maybe taking the state school full-ride, but MIT? ED is binding, limiting choice–and one the OP knew (or should have known) she was making. </p>
<p>Also, wonderful bashing of state schools on this thread!</p>
<p>It is true that the OP is within her rights to apply ED to Penn and EA to MIT.</p>
<p>The only thing that would be wrong would be if she’s accepted to both and decides to back out of her Penn admission for bogus reasons so she can attend MIT or another top private school. If she tries to do this – whether or not admissions officers saw her MIT posts that have been removed – the admissions officers will rescind her admission to both schools, and she will not gain admission to any other top private universities.</p>
<p>As long as the OP doesn’t plan to do this, she has nothing to worry about.</p>
<p>Sad! Is this what CC is coming to? If I were 17, i’d be running scared too considering that adults are tracking my every move on a message board. </p>
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<p>As of yesterday, OP had 15 posts on CC, four of which were in the MIT forum. Now all of those posts have been removed (search her name for posts). Why?</p>
<p>Yesterday evening a poster posted that RedBlueBeaver had been accepted ED to UPenn in a MIT thread that RedBlueBeaver had already posted in.</p>
<p>Did the OP ask that the MIT posts be removed? Why would a moderator agree? </p>
<p>OP has been on this site as recently as 8:12 a.m. today, so I think she is running scared, and trying to cover up her tracks in the MIT forum about what she did. If she believes she did no wrong, then why did she get her posts removed? (I’m assuming that she did this, and that it wasn’t another poster who requested removal of her posts.) "</p>
<p>If my S was applying to MIT, I would have also notified the MIT admissions officer on CC. </p>
<p>Perhaps someone already has done so. Sounds like MIT will find out, regardless, which is what I hope happens.</p>
<p>That’s disgusting, Deja.</p>
<p>"Sad! Is this what CC is coming to? If I were 17, i’d be running scared too considering that adults are tracking my every move on a message board. "</p>
<p>“Yesterday evening a poster posted that RedBlueBeaver had been accepted ED to UPenn in a MIT thread that RedBlueBeaver had already posted in.”</p>
<p>I think that students rejected or deferred ED Penn or who want EA MIT acceptances are far more likely to be the ones who’d inform MIT if it seemed that the OP is planning on being unethical with her Penn acceptance. Students – lots of whom read Parents forum – are the ones with the most to lose. I’d bet that it was a student who posted on the MIT board about her acceptance to Penn, not that MIT admissions officers would care about that unless she backs out of her ED acceptance for reasons that Penn wouldn’t allow.</p>
<p>It’s unlikely that she could back out of Penn ED due to finances and then go to MIT since MIT’s financial aid offer is likely to be close to that of Penn. Since Penn obviously wants her, and since she says she’s low income, it’s likely Penn will give her the financial aid that her family requires (unless they require something like enough $ for her to buy a car). </p>
<p>She lives in the Midwest, so it’s not likely she could back out of Penn and accept MIT due to a family emergency such as needing to be near a critically ill parent, another kind of excuse that colleges will accept.</p>
<p>I also do not sympathize with the OP if what she is trying to do is game the system so she can attend MIT instead of Penn. We lament the rise of cheating in high schools. This is a form of cheating. High school seniors are not such “kids” that they don’t need to practice integrity.</p>
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<p>Get off your high horse, dstark. What would be wrong with notifying the MIT admissions officer, if it’s all above board and the OP has done nothing wrong? I don’t understand why that is so “disgusting.”</p>
<p>Its too bad that schools cant have informal waitlists for ED (Im assuming they dont). That way, if a kid decides to back out, for whatever reason, they can offer up their ED spot to the next kid in line. </p>
<p>I dont know much about this, and obviously financial problems can come up. Like everyone says Im sure the school will have no problem filling the spot. But I could see being annoyed if I applied ED, got deferred, and then something like this happened even if its really nobodys fault.</p>
<p>Could be the mods removed her MIT posts. Maybe trying to save her from herself…the MIT thread has had MIT adcoms on it in the past.</p>
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<p>There was an article that came up around the large number of informers that colleges have to deal with. IIRC, some admission officers said they ignored all such information. Others would only consider it if the provider of the dirt provided verifiable contact information about THEM (the informant). </p>
<p>So, it’s unclear if M.I.T. sees ANY problem in any of this, it’s unclear how many people would be willing to provide such information by giving their OWN names and contact information and also unclear how the person provided that information at M.I.T. feels about ‘snitches.’</p>
<p>Just as a guess, I would be inclined to think that a student or parent that has a vested interest in the application pool would risk having this blow up back in their own face(s).</p>
<p>I agree with dstark and think it’s pretty awful, too, at the moment of time the OP posted on the MIT forums the OP wasn’t doing anything technically wrong. Maybe not “politically” smart but not technically wrong. There wasn’t even at that point in time an ethical issue. Everything else going on since is purely speculation so “outing” the OP was not necessary. I think the moderators did the right thing.</p>