Deerfield - Gay Students targeted

<p>Brooklyn, I told them at my interview that I probably could not attend them. They put me on a waitlist (I think you commented on this happening on another thread - and it is true) -- on my waitlist letters they asked me to "revisit" and let them know if I changed my mind.</p>

<p>Allido. Every Christian is obligated to be a missionary, it is not a choice. I will love the sinner -- but will also try to convince him of his sin. I would do the same to an adulterer, etc. Not doing so will do more damage to "innocent kids trying to find their way in the world". You may see it as hatred toward others, the rest of us see what you propose as "hatred toward God". I have received many PMs from others agreeing but afraid of being attacked as I have.</p>

<p>Their are many boarding schools that do not support gay rights and they are probably glad that they are not on your family's list. Exeter is not on my family's list because of the opposite. Deerfield, Hotchkiss and Andover may be.</p>

<p>you can't ungay someone.
at least not that i know of.</p>

<p>Biggestfoot: While you might feel "attacked", you will need to defend your views in all aspects of life. So, this discussion can be part of a useful education.</p>

<p>And, Deerfield, Hotckhiss, and Andover are ALL supportive of gay rights. Trust me, my niece would not have applied to any of these schools if she didn't think that my partner and I would be supported by the school. And, since her acceptance at Andover, my partner and I have felt VERY welcomed by several members of the Andover admissions staff. We will be going to the visit days this Friday. Should we experience any anti-LGBT thoughts or actions, she certainly won't feel comfortable attending. But, based on past interactions, I doubt that will happen.</p>

<p>On another note, both Connecticut and Massachusetts (California also) have laws to protect LGBT employees. Also, Massachusetts is the only state that allows same-sex marriage. You will likely have out LGBT teachers at Andover, Hotchkiss, and Deerfield. At Andover, LGBT partners can live as couples in faculty housing. (I don't know about other schools) I agree with these policies. You probably do not. What you need to consider is: will you and your family be comfortable with you attending these schools? I have a feeling that you might not be, and perhaps a school with a more religious viewpoint might serve you and your family better.</p>

<p>Preppp: A concise but wise post!</p>

<p>thanks. (:
tencharacterss.</p>

<p>BF: Oh, you belong to one of those sects of Christianity. Gotcha, I should have realized from what you've said.</p>

<p>You need to be aware that if you actively try to convert your fellow students, or condemn their ways of life (as long as their actions don't violate some rule at the school), you WILL be asked to stop by the school. There isn't a major boarding school I know that would allow you to do so. Passively disagreeing with their beliefs is one thing, but "trying to convince someone of their sin" will get you kicked out if you refuse to stop. </p>

<p>Understand that where you, as a student, end is where the rights of another begin. You have every right in the world to believe someone's actions are a sin. But you have no right whatsoever to tell them so/convince them otherwise. You are at school to learn, not to be religiously intolerant. Leave your morals to take care of yourself, and don't worry about your fellow students. Unless you choose a religious school (which, from the strength of your beliefs, would be the best choice for you), you will be either marginalized for your minority views, or you will be teased for them. </p>

<p>The average student at a boarding school today is not a anti-gay, deeply religious, conservative proselytizer. Some may be one of those things. But you are going to stick out like a sore thumb, and you may learn some hard lessons unless you learn to adapt. The real world (especially the east coast)isn't like your reservation, if you are typical of the people around you. You are in for some serious culture shock.</p>

<p>Brook. I agree with you and I don't mind the discussion - however I have been PMed by many who agree with me and wish they had the guts to go against you all. Note, I said that NE and Ca support gay rights, but what do you expect from states where in one a person of a famous clan gets off killing a girl in an accident and in another, one gets off killing his wife. Also, I don't believe that Ma gay marriages are recognized in any other state nor do corporations have to recognize them (those based in other states). I also seem to remember that the Supremes have not yet spoken. Finally, one of the teachers of those schools ended up in jail for his lifestyle.</p>

<p>Allid. I don't remember your saying which school you attend or are attending? It is my Constitutional right to state my religious beliefs, not a gay person. You state that it is ok for them to make me tolerant of them, but not mine to teach them they will go to h...
From the PMs I have gotten, there appear to be alot more conservatives at those schools then you believe. Also why in their web sites, they note that McClain has whooped Hillary at most and Bush did the same in the past (among the students, not faculty).</p>

<p>This really isn't even ok, anymore. YOU NEED TO STOP THIS DEBATE. I know that there are people my age on these boards who are only here to talk about SCHOOLS. Immorality? Homosexuality? Bigotry? All these topics are something that shouldn't be on a COLLEGE DISCUSSION board. For kids out there, please? just stop? Should i make my post a page long for you people to realize this? </p>

<p>YOU NEED TO STOP THIS DEBATEYOU NEED TO STOP THIS DEBATEYOU NEED TO STOP THIS DEBATEYOU NEED TO STOP THIS DEBATEYOU NEED TO STOP THIS DEBATEYOU NEED TO STOP THIS DEBATEYOU NEED TO STOP THIS DEBATEYOU NEED TO STOP THIS DEBATEYOU NEED TO STOP THIS DEBATE</p>

<p>azn foo, you have changed my opinion about you. Congrats. Yeah, seriously you should stop arguing about religion, sex, and politics because those are the three issues that most people are brought up not talk about subjectively in a public situation. So, grow up. People's beliefs are people beliefs. You can't change them. Deal with them and ignore/drop this thread.</p>

<p>Foo: Sorry, but this is an issue of life at boarding school, choosing the right school, diversity of schools, hate crimes at schools, how schools respond to hate crimes, at what schools a student will be comfortable, etc. No one is forcing you to read this thread. If it bothers you, you can simply choose not to read it. </p>

<p>BiggestFoot: I don't follow your examples, since you don't cite anything specific. Sorry. By the way, most pedophiles are straight men. Also, schools in many states are prevented by state laws from discriminating. At any of the east coast schools you are now considering attending, you WILL have gay teachers. I am not questioning your beliefs, even though I strongly disagree with them. I just am not sure you are ready to be dealing with a lot of things that are protected by law and that you don't like.</p>

<p>I'm not surprised</p>

<p>a lot of republicans go to bs</p>

<p>well at least most of the schools say you can request another teacher if beliefs clash. Other than Ma and perhaps Ca, I don't know of any states that prevent discrimination re: gays. I googled and could not find it. In fact, found several State SC rulings that backed companies for not giving gays the same rights (health insurance, etc) as normals (sic). Also found one upholding firing of gay Coach (in locker room with boys). However, your niece seems to be lucky to have a loving Uncle and friend.</p>

<p>This is where the party ends
I can't stand here listening to you
And your racist friend
I know politics bore you
But I feel like a hypocrite talking to you
And your racist friend</p>

<p>It was the loveliest party that I've ever attended
If anything was broken I'm sure it could be mended
My head can't tolerate this bobbing and pretending
Listen to some bullet-head and the madness that he's saying</p>

<p>This is where the party ends
I'll just sit here wondering how you
Can stand by your racist friend
I know politics bore you
But I feel like a hypocrite talking to you
You and your racist friend</p>

<p>This is where the party ends
I can't stand here listening to you
And your racist friend
I know politics bore you
But I feel like a hypocrite talking to you
And your racist friend</p>

<p>Out from the kitchen to the bedroom to the hallway
Your friend apologizes, he could see it my way
He let the contents of the bottle do the thinking
Can't shake the devil's hand and say you're only kidding</p>

<p>This is where the party ends
I can't stand here listening to you
And your racist friend
I know politics bore you
But I feel like a hypocrite talking to you
And your racist friend</p>

<p>A friend, whose daughter attends DA, said she was surprised that there wasn't more immediate communication to parents about the incident. Apparently there was a school meeting as soon as the school was aware of the letters, but she said school parents were not notified until they received a letter in the mail almost two weeks later.</p>

<p>Rather than kill this thread we should change it into the official thread for song lyrics and links to songs which decry homophobia, bigotry, racism and hatred!</p>

<p>Elior, go sing elsewhere. whoops Simon says try something new</p>

<p>Thacher's Mission Statement (oddly you mis-spelled "Thatcher" in your "official acceptance" post). Was this included in your acceptance package?</p>

<p>"Mission</p>

<p>The Mission of the School today remains essentially unchanged from that of its modest beginnings over one hundred years ago. While remaining true to its traditional task of preparing students for admission to college and equipping them with the contemporary knowledge and tools for a successful course of higher education, Thacher continues to train young men and women in the art of living for their own greatest good and for the greatest good of their fellow citizens in the increasingly diverse society of a complex world.</p>

<p>To these ends, a scholarly and able faculty encourages and expects: excellence of students in the School’s classrooms, laboratories, and studios
a lifelong love of truth and learning exemplary levels of performance and sportsmanship on the playing fields and courts high standards of conduct in all relationships and activities civil courtesy throughout the School’s daily round. The School’s extraordinary location and traditional family environment promote the virtues of personal growth and self-reliance tempered by an increasing awareness of the needs of others and a shared responsibility for a healthy and happy community."</p>

<p>yea, traditional family environment...and a healthy community.
What is your point?</p>

<p>"traditional family emviroment" I really dont think thats supporting gays much.</p>

<p>"Thacher continues to train young men and women in the art of living for their own greatest good and for the greatest good of their fellow citizens in the increasingly diverse society of a complex world"</p>