<p>In Skokie v. Collin, the Nazis singled out Skokie, a town with 70,000 residents, over 40,000 of whom were Jewish. Of that, 40% had survived the Holocaust or were family members of survivors. It is no coincidence the Nazis chose Skokie. I call that terrorization when a group comes into one's home and preaches about their destruction. It is the equivalent of seeing a terrorist walking down the street, threatening the U.S. And firewalker, by asserting your opinions, you're forcing your views on others. There's no need for hypocrisy.</p>
<p>I'm fiscally conservative and am pro-dealth penalty but I'm pro-choice and think gay marraige should be legal.. overall I'm a Republican.</p>
<p>Oh yeah, I also support open borders.
I'm against racial profiling. It's just ridiculous. If you want to get rid of terrorism, then pull out of the middle east and make everyone on the planet like us. Terrorism only happens because the few extremists hate us so much that they'll go to any length to see us die.</p>
<p>"In Skokie v. Collin, the Nazis singled out Skokie, a town with 70,000 residents, over 40,000 of whom were Jewish. Of that, 40% had survived the Holocaust or were family members of survivors. It is no coincidence the Nazis chose Skokie. I call that terrorization when a group comes into one's home and preaches about their destruction."</p>
<p>"A legal battle ensued when the village attempted to ban the event, and the party, represented by the ACLU in court, won the right to march on First Amendment grounds in National Socialist Party vs. Village of Skokie..."</p>
<p>Apparently the courts, and I, don't agree with your view of "terrorization". Terrorization is "terrorization" only when violence occurs/threatens public safety. Their right to peacefully assemble is fully protected, youre just taking your own view and forcing it into others. Just stop.</p>
<p>"It is the equivalent of seeing a terrorist walking down the street, threatening the U.S."</p>
<p>He also has the right to protest, as long as it is not violent and he obtained permission.</p>
<p>And firewalker, by asserting your opinions, you're forcing your views on others. There's no need for hypocrisy.</p>
<p>All I'm doing is trying to knock some sense into people like you conservatives who would love to see America turn into an Orwellian society</p>
<p>I thought I had the right to assert my opinions, right? You tell me to stop, yet you are entirely in favor of permitting a hate group to spread its evil seed in a predominately Jewish town. And what if a amn is preaching of the decline and destruction of America? In the Skokie case, the Nazis were going to march in Skokie, a town they singled out because of its immense Jewish population; if that doesn't threaten public safety, then what does? Is that appropriate? Is that what your morals dictate as correct? A total of 11 million people, including 6 million Jews, were murdered by the Nazis during the Holocaust. Now, you think peace will arise and be maintained by letting the Nazis preach of their hatred in front of the survivors and family members of the deceased. Our nation was founded upon freedom from persecution, and the Nazis are perhaps the most well known of persecuters in the world. At first, people did not take them seriously; look what that caused. Why you would want to allow for the possibility of such occurring once more is baffling. You think our nation will be compromised if it doesn't give a hate group the right to torment a select group of people. What is more frightening is the possibility of what may occur if we do allow for such.</p>
<p>mcz,</p>
<p>You have very few "rights" on an online forum. Don't play the 1st Amendment card online, it doesn't work.</p>
<p>If the Nazis hold a public, peaceful protest, then technically no public safety was harmed. 1st Amendment rights don't just extend to those that we like, for better or for worse. I'll give you an example:</p>
<p>While I was an undergrad at UCLA, some wingbat group was comparing Israel to Nazis. This lead a fair portion of the student body to call for them to lose their charter and be silenced. I was opposed to it, even though I am Jewish. Why? Because, whether I like it or not, the upholding of their right to say stupid crap is more important than my right to not be offended. </p>
<p>The second we start censoring Nazi-wannabes, we potentially start down a road of hyper-sensitivity-based censorship. Yes, what the group did was gross, psychologically cruel, and offense, but they should not be censored (purely based on legal grounds.)</p>
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<p>No, it was based on the notion of Enlightenment-era notions of freedom and non-obtrusive government. You have no right to be protected from the "persecution" of the words of another. You do have the right to not have the federal government tell you that you can't say "Condy Rice is a jerk," or "Sen. Edwards is an evil monkey man." </p>
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<p>There is a marked difference between allowing a group to voice its opinion and allowing a group to actively kill another that I think you're missing.</p>
<p>I'm a democratic based on my values, however, I tend to like republican politicans more.</p>
<p>I for one, like president bush. I don't agree with his policy's, but like him as a president.</p>
<p>Liberal and democratic. I live directly outside DC. It is very democratic. </p>
<p>Democrats are smarter anyways.</p>
<p>most college students are liberal so get used to it :D</p>
<p>That makes no sense. Elaborate.</p>
<p>while it is true that there is a correlation between more education and more liberal, that doesn't mean that liberals r smarter. Btw, party division is not as strict as it is in say Britain as in the US. Democrats? WHo are they? They could be tree-huggers, welfare advocates, feminists, or u know what? liberatarians and conservatives? doesn't it surprise u? I live in McLean VA so don't say i'm stupdi just based on my possible residency in MS.
Take political science it realyl helps u understand politics. Politics has its rules.
i could go on but basically the party structure isnt really strict in the US. With a lot of moderates splitting between REpublicans and Democrats when they could change and have no problem at all. There rn't that many super-liberals in the democratic party as u believe there r.</p>
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<p>are you talking to me? When did I ever say there are tons of super liberals? Most people are split by issue, including me. And that liberal is smarter stuff is just a poke with stick. If you take what I said as saying you are stupid you really need to take it as a joke. Its obvious that not all democrats are smart and all republicans are "stupid". It is fact that many colleges are extremely liberal and some people say teachers stick everyone with 'liberal bs'. Most of the democrats are smarter than republican stuff started up because of that study of how 9 of the top 10 states that scored highest on the IQ test voted for gore and the lowest 10 voted for bush. </p>
<p>1 - Connecticut (Gore - Democrat) 113
2 - Massachusets(Gore - Democrat) 111
3 - New Jersey (Gore - Democrat) 111
4 - New York (Gore - Democrat) 109
5 - Rhode Island (Gore - Democrat) 107
6 - Hawaii (Gore - Democrat) 106
7 - Maryland (Gore - Democrat) 105
8 - New Hampshire (Bush - Republican) 105
9 - Illinois (Gore - Democrat) 104
10 - Delaware (Gore - Democrat) 103</p>
<p>40 - Alabama (Bush - Republican) 92
41 - Louisiana (Bush - Republican) 91
42 - Montana (Bush - Republican) 90
43 - Oklahoma (Bush - Republican) 90
44 - South Dakota (Bush - Republican)89
45 - South Carolina (Bush - Republican) 87
46 - Wyoming (Bush - Republican) 87
47 - Idaho (Bush - Republican) 86
48 - Utah (Bush - Republican) 85
49 - Mississippi (Bush - Republican) 85</p>
<p>Now if you think I was calling you stupid I am sorry because it is obvious that this is not true. You really need to take what I said as a joke... ok?</p>
<p>UCLAri, legality doesn't always follow what is morally permissible.</p>
<p>You're right. But we don't base jurisprudence (in theory) on feelings of parties involved. We base it on legality. Although our common law system allows for a little more leeway in terms of "moral" judicial rulings, if the law states that citizens get the freedom of speech, then come hell or high water, Nazi idiots get free speech. </p>
<p>I don't jump up and down for joy when I hear about these jerks doing their thing (especially as a Jew myself), but I realize that there's a legal and constitutional standard that supercedes my feelings in the matter.</p>
<p>There has been a trend of people passing their prejudices off in policy as law..Look around you-hate speech laws, non smoking laws, "consumer advocacy", affirmative action, war on drugs, etc,etc. I don't think in the near future we are going to see laws being proposed objectively and with proper attention to individual rights. The same thing applies to free speech..The Nazis may be vile, but once you end their freedom, pretty soon your speech may be targeted too.</p>
<p>The saying goes...</p>
<p>"Any man who is under 30, and is not a liberal, has not heart; and any man who is over 30, and is not a conservative, has no brains."</p>
<p>;)</p>
<p>I'm a social liberal, all the way. </p>
<p>And, I agree with most of you on here.. IMO, nowadays, there really isn't much of a difference between the democrats and republicans anymore. I refuse to affiliate myself with either party.</p>
<p>I miss being 17 and thinking I really understood how politics worked.</p>
<p>Now that I'm 22 and have a degree in poli sci, I realize that I don't understand politics...at all. Damn you education! Damn you for shattering my dreams!</p>
<p>Democrats are just retarded when it comes to economic issues. I'm going to have to vote for Republican. I'd rather have no gay marriage than a crappy economic situation. Why do you think all Business majors and Economics majors vote Republican.</p>
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<p>That's why there are prominent Democratic economists. :rolleyes:</p>
<p>Liz, they vote Republican because they want to keep their money. I'm going into business (although I'm a Democrat) and know this is the biggest reason.</p>
<p>The economy has always been better under Democrats. We went from record surplus under Clinton to record deficit under Bush in 5 years. This isn't pseudo-science; it's a fact. Look it up. </p>
<p>Cheapseats, why'd you go ahead and bring statistics/facts into this? You know those don't matter (to Republicans). See global warming, Iraq War, economy, Katrina warnings, etc etc.</p>