<p>I'm an atheist Republican. I'm conservative on the vast majority of issues, including being against abortion, for the death penalty, for the Patriot Act, against legalization of hard drugs, etc., but I am for gay marriage, as the arguments for that seem to be solely religion-based, and since I'm not religious, I find those ludicrous, in addition to the fact that one of my mother's best friends is gay, so I haven't been exposed to that as a real stigma...But I could never vote liberal.</p>
<p>greeen party/liberal</p>
<p>"Yes. I believe in that all people are good by nature. Besides, life in prison costs less per person than the death penalty because they go through like 15 years of appeal before the sentence gets overturned."</p>
<p>So you rather have tax payers save money for his cost of living in a prison than him being on the streets and possibly killing someone else? I tihnk HE should pay for the cost of living in prison, along with the cost of execution.</p>
<p>Liberal. My whole family is Republican but me, woohoo!</p>
<p>Now that is ridiculous...why would he pay for it? Why keep them on death row so long and all that nonsense. Just use a handgun and shoot him real quick. Plus it's his probably innocent family that would have to pay, not him.</p>
<p>same for me, NJBoy200.</p>
<p>I am the only liberal in my family. and i am extremely liberal at that.</p>
<p>So many freaking teens are liberal because they really don't understand the world around them. They just want happiness and equality and yadda yadda...you don't see too many wise elder folks that are liberal (some yes, but few)</p>
<p>I hate how the so called "liberals" on this board advocate an economic policy that would have made Adam Smith cry.</p>
<p>I don't think I need to state the famous Churchill quote here. All liberals I have encountered are extremely condescending and full of hot air. This one conservative kid I know is a bible thumper. We are all doomed!</p>
<p>I agree, Sittingbull.</p>
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that could be said of conservative teenagers too.</p>
<p>And explain how that could be said with most teens being liberal?</p>
<p>most teens aren't actually liberal. there are just a lot of CCers that are liberal. and CC represents such a small fraction of the teenage population...</p>
<p>From what I have seen, the majority of teens, particularly the liberal ones, have often not seen much. For example, I know a girl who was homeschooled until ninth grade, never had many friends except her younger siblings (now she has nine), has an incredibly religious family, thinks cursing is some demonic sin, and got disgusted at the site of "people having sex through their clothes" (her name for the dancing she saw) at a school dance, making her almost physically ill. She cringes at hearing the word "genital" and is not allowed to take sex ed. She has no television, so all she does is read and study. Her isolation has made her into an idealist. I'm sorry, but not everybody is Scrooge, and the idea of redemption is oftentimes impossible. She refuses to admit that there is true evil in the world, and she thinks that even murderers should get a second chance, because she thinks they'd be sorry. Now, if society was like this, it would be the biggest mess on earth. While she is conservative on certain matters like gay marriage because of her religious family, she is ridiculously liberal, having never had any real contact to the world outside her family and outside her house. Should society be this way? Should we condone the acts of criminals and let them walk free? The concept is ridiculous, yet she has grown up delusional and unaware of the squalor of reality.</p>
<p>mcz, that seems like an extreme example. </p>
<p>I personally know girls who have had abortions, i am best friends with a gay guy, my two uncles and my brother are in the military, the majority of my family lives below the poverty line. I think i have a pretty good handle on what is going on in the world, and i am still a LIBERAL. so, you don't have to grow up in an isolated world in order to be liberal.</p>
<p>I'm not a "bible thumper." I haven't even read the bible and I only go to church maybe once or twice a year.</p>
<p>Hotpiece, do you watch the news? Why should a man be given clemency for raping and butchering a woman? Why should we be increasing the likelihood of spreading STDs by telling girls that if they get pregnant, it's okay, because they can just have an abortion? Why should Nazis be granted the right to march through a small, predominately Jewish town with an obvious intent to terrorize the residents? I'm sorry, but sometimes laws simply are not just and people need to realize that idealism is not always the best thing.</p>
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I do watch the news, mcz. And not once have I advocated clemency for a rapist or Neo-Nazi terrorism... But in regards to abortions, people will have sex regardless of abortion opportunities. we are increasing the likelihood of spreading STDs by following Bush's conservative ideas of teaching abstinence rather than safe sex. Don't get me wrong, I think abstinence is great and all, but only subscribing to that belief is not stopping teenage sex, it is merely increasing incidents of unsafe sex.</p>
<p>my question for you, mcz, is do you watch the news? Do you see the hate crimes against gays. Do you not see the discrimination against those of middle eastern descent?</p>
<p>Going back to the original topic:</p>
<p>I am a fiscal conservative. On social issues, I am a little more liberal.</p>
<p>"Why should a man be given clemency for raping and butchering a woman?"</p>
<p>I dont believe a man should be given clemency. Im speaking for my views, which just so happen to fall roughly under libertarianism, so dont mistake me for being 100% pure "liberal".</p>
<p>"Why should we be increasing the likelihood of spreading STDs by telling girls that if they get pregnant, it's okay, because they can just have an abortion?"</p>
<p>Roe v. Wade is hardly a rubber stamp for gratuitous abortions. It has a very strict interpretation of the constitutionality of abortion. During the FIRST trimester, the decision is left to the "medical judgment of the pregnant woman's attending physician". During the second and third trimesters, states are allowed to deem them illegal. The only exception is if the mothers life is in danger. Show me a study that shows a direct correlation with the increased rates of STD's with use of abortion.</p>
<p>"Why should Nazis be granted the right to march through a small, predominately Jewish town with an obvious intent to terrorize the residents?"</p>
<p>Nazi's right to protest is guaranteed by the first amendment of the constitution, just like the KKK is allowed to congregate. The only reason why they should be stopped is if it becomes violent. Whats your definition of "terrorize"?</p>
<p>"I'm sorry, but sometimes laws simply are not just and people need to realize that idealism is not always the best thing."</p>
<p>Quit forcing your views on other people, that's what ticks me off with these conservatives, keep your damn business to yourself.</p>