<p>8 Miile Rd. also runs along the border of Northville and Novi in western Wayne and Oakland counties. In case you didn’t know, that’s a very nice upper income area.</p>
<p>This thread should die already. Too many people who are not from Detroit aren’t qualified to make comments about the desirabilty of the suburbs in the tri-county area. I have lived here my entire life and have traveled extensively throughout this country. The Detroit suburbs are better overall than most large metropolitan areas I’ve been to.</p>
<p>I have to say rjkofnovi, you start too many arguments with people, if you want threads to “die” you should stop starting arguments with other people or stop commenting on threads that you think should “die”. I mean you are complaining about having this thread close and then make numerous comments and have other people make their post edited. If you want a thread to die, then STOP POSTING.</p>
<p>That’s my comment on this thread. I skip a good 3/4 of this thread because it was all arguments. Seriously you stated on the first page you want Alexandre to close this thread, if you wanted this thread to “die” you should have stop posting because more than one page of this thread contains your post arguing with other people.</p>
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<p>Not quite what I was getting at … I’m aware b/c I live in Oakland Co. </p>
<p>I was referring to the movie 8 Mile … but I’m guessing that’s a bad allusion.</p>
<p>Sorry to be so sensitive ab2013. I’m just sick and tired of everybody bashing Detroit and Michigan. It’s really getting old and on my nerves.</p>
<p>^It’s good to be proud of Detroit and Michigan … but really both places have to improve. (Ann Arbor is fine the way it is tho! :))</p>
<p>^Agreed, rjkofnovi, and we also really need you on city-data!!!</p>
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<p>“he best part of Michigan, “Troy, Birmingham, Bloomfield Hills, Northfield, Grosse Point etc…”, are not even close to the same league as the “nice places” in other states in terms of class… for ex. Darien, CT, Scarsdale, NY … Atherton, California , Great Falls, Virginia , Winnetka, Illinois, Weston, Massachusetts… Even lakeville, CT, where Hotchkiss is at, look nicer than grosse pointe and it’s not even close to being the highest income zip code in CT …”</p>
<p>“Bloomfield Hills has consistently ranked as one of the five wealthiest cities in the United States of over 1,000 households” [Bloomfield</a> Hills Jobs (MI) | Simply Hired](<a href=“http://www.simplyhired.com/a/local-jobs/city/l-Bloomfield+Hills,+MI]Bloomfield”>http://www.simplyhired.com/a/local-jobs/city/l-Bloomfield+Hills,+MI) </p>
<p><a href=“http://mioaklandcounty.com/blog/2006/12/26/americas-4th-wealthiest-city-bloomfield-hills/[/url]”>http://mioaklandcounty.com/blog/2006/12/26/americas-4th-wealthiest-city-bloomfield-hills/</a> </p>
<p>I think from these links it is kind of hard to say that Bloomfield Hills is not on par with the places you listed.</p>
<p>^IMO Troy, Birmingham, and Bloomfield Hills are very nice places, especially in Michigan.</p>
<p>And Somerset Mall is in Troy, too … apparently its one of the most profitable malls in the USA looked highly upon by mall developers, b/c it generates over $600 mill in revenue ([Somerset</a> Collection - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia](<a href=“http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Somerset_Collection]Somerset”>Somerset Collection - Wikipedia))</p>
<p>(Though I’m not sure if Somerset has much to do with the nature of this thread)</p>
<p>just because some of our nicest suburbs don’t reach the ridiculous wealth of other areas of the country doesn’t mean it’s still not a great place to live. actually, i think it makes it even better. there’s more diversity and less snobby attitudes.</p>
<p>despite what some people think, wealth isn’t everything ;)</p>
<p>^OK there are TONS of snobs living in Birmingham, Troy, and Bloomfield Hills, ESPECIALLY in Bloomfield Hills. I once heard that in addition to private school tuition, DCDS (Detroit Country Day) forces parents to pay another 5k for a school laptop.</p>
<p>But other than that yea that area is also pretty diverse … including Rochester Hills.</p>
<p>And yea for some people wealth is everything … hence the intense competition for MDs.</p>
<p>“DCDS (Detroit Country Day) forces parents to pay another 5k for a school laptop.”</p>
<p>I have to say that your statement is wrong, there are no laptops for a school that is 5K. Plus students are allowed to buy what ever laptop they want, it doesn’t have to be school laptop. So I would say the extra cost is really only $800 dollars, a average cost for most computers now a days. If you happen to find a 5K laptop that a school would want students to buy, then tell me, but it is ridiculous that people would say that a school wants students to buy laptops that are 5k.</p>
<p>“OK there are TONS of snobs living in Birmingham, Troy, and Bloomfield Hills, ESPECIALLY in Bloomfield Hills.”</p>
<p>I also have to say one thing, just because they are rich doesn’t mean they are snobs. There are rich people I know that don’t even try to act and even dress as they are better than other people. And you can find “snobs” everywhere. As said the Catcher in the Rye, there are less wealthy people who are going to be bourgeois (or people who are materialistic and try to look richer than they are). And that is true, there are going to be people who waste their money buying expensive looking things so they look rich but they are really just another middle class people. We would characterize them as “snobs”. So really “snobs” can be anywhere, not just in rich places.</p>
<p>I am surprised no one mentioned Grosse Pointe (where I was educated 
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<p>“he best part of Michigan, “Troy, Birmingham, Bloomfield Hills, Northfield, Grosse Point etc…”, are not even close to the same league as the “nice places” in other states in terms of class… for ex. Darien, CT, Scarsdale, NY … Atherton, California , Great Falls, Virginia , Winnetka, Illinois, Weston, Massachusetts… Even lakeville, CT, where Hotchkiss is at, look nicer than grosse pointe and it’s not even close to being the highest income zip code in CT …”</p>
<p>They did. They just spelled it wrong. Actually, as I know you are quite aware, there are five Grosse Pointes. Even those are not all equal in prestige, as I am sure you are quite aware as well. Btw, Northfield should have been written as Northville.</p>
<p>my point was more that you don’t need to live in the highest income bracket ever to live in a nice city. just because troy might not be in the same income bracket as greenwich, ct, doesn’t mean it isn’t a great place to live.</p>
<p>The suburbs are Detroit are a nice place to grow up in. I did after all and I turned out fine.;)</p>
<p>If Michigan grads choose to stay in-state though, they are not a lot of job opportunities once they leave the state.</p>
<p>“If Michigan grads choose to stay in-state though, they are not a lot of job opportunities once they leave the state.”</p>
<p>That does not make a lot of sense. If the grads choose to stay in-state, why should they care about opportunities once they leave the state? And why would they have few opportunities when (and if) they leave the state?</p>
<p>Besides, how is this relevant to this thread, which is about living in the Detroit metro area?</p>
<p>Sometimes I wonder if English is a second language to many of the posters on CC.</p>
<p>couple years ago, oakland county was ranked as the richest county in the midwest, and top 5 richest counties in america. its not like that anymore, but still oakland county one of the most affluent counties in america.</p>
<p>Sorry, I meant Michigan grads will need to leave the state of Michigan because the state doesn’t have a lot of opportunities.</p>