did anyone notice...?

<p>College Board is trying to rip us off.</p>

<p>As you all know the results for the Jan 27th test come back on Feb 15</p>

<p>However the late registration deadline for the March 10th test is Feb 14</p>

<p>They are just trying to make more money off of our "preocupied" state of being..</p>

<p>....this makes me mad because i planned on taking SAT II's in May and June and I really don't want to take another SAT senior year in October. Do you think they will push the late deadline to Feb 16th or 17th if we notify them of this situation.</p>

<p>I really don't want to sign up for the test and then not take it...</p>

<p>AHHHH.</p>

<p>lol rly, i never noticed that, but i signed up for march's right after i finished jan's. :&lt;/p>

<p>CB is a monopoly</p>

<p>CB will probably change the registration dates. Like they usually do. Late registration will probably start after we get our scores back. so we can decide to take it or not. At least this is what happen on previous tests.</p>

<p>
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CB is a monopoly

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explain how this is so when CB is a non profit organization.</p>

<p>Non-profit organizations can still be rich.</p>

<p>I completely agree with Flippy.
Look at ETS. It's still a non-profit organization and still earns millions of dollars by TOEFL, GRE, and GMAT. No wonder how CB can also be a monopoly.</p>

<p>wow..... you guys are ignorant. non profit organizations don't make money. you do realize it costs to research sat's, create new tests, pay people who grade the sat's and read the essays. if collegeboard didn't charge, they wouldn't be able to pay for all those things. its called price - land, labor, capitol, and entrepreneurial return. when all that is said and done, corporations make 0 economic profits, meaning they don't earn "earns millions of dollars".</p>

<p>College board is not a non profit organization... its a not for profit organization</p>

<p>meaning there goal is not to make money... but they still keep the extra money that they recieve</p>

<p>bman14, economics ftw.</p>

<p>also, SATs have inelastic demand, lol</p>

<p>Bman, you realize that the president of College Board is a multi millionaire?</p>

<p>I highly doubt that a scantron and booklet costs $40 to produce, grade, and etc.</p>

<p>from <i guess="" cnn="" got="" the="" tip-off...=""> thread </i></p><i guess="" cnn="" got="" the="" tip-off...="">

<h1><a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=294941%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=294941&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/h1>

<p>But it takes 18 months and "probably $350,000" to create an entirely new SAT. The test already costs students $41.50.</p>

<p>But some critics say the practice amounts to cutting corners. The College Board, a not-for-profit that promotes college access, took in nearly $500 million in total revenue in 2004, the year of its most recent publicly available financial disclosure form.</p>
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<p>^Nicely done.</p>

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<p>masterchief26:</p>

<p><late registration="" fee="" $21.50=""></late></p>

<p>but if you register for SAT I before Feb 3 then
<change test,="" test="" date,="" or="" center="" fee="" $20.50=""></change></p>

<p>find out tomorrow if you can change sat I to sat II.
if you can you won't need late registration
and you'll save $1.00 haha</p>

<p>
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Bman, you realize that the president of College Board is a multi millionaire?

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i dont doubt that. "price - land, labor, capitol, and entrepreneurial return = 0 profit"</p>

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$500 million in total revenue in 2004

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know what revenue is next time you e-rage. its what the company makes by selling things (in this case, sat test that cost 41$ per test, ap test that cost 82$ per test, etc). no **** they would make around 500 million with the things they sell. does that mean they make a profit? ok, stop hating on collegeboard because they own you.</p>

<p>next.</p>

<p>poor CB, with prices so meager they have to resort to tag sales selling things.
maybe if you multiply test price (which is not the same as test cost btw) by the number of our souls owned by CB times number of tests we take it will exceed their expenses just a little bit?
google "college board profits" and the second hit will give you this

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The most recent public inspection copies, covering the fiscal year ending on June 30, 1995, show that the CEEB took in more than $200,000,000 in program service revenue, primarily from test-takers and their parents. Annual income exceeded expenses by five million dollars leaving net assets at the close of the year in excess of $62,000,000.</p>

<p>This huge revenue stream produces first-class accommodations and large salaries for College Board leaders. In addiion to owning a mid-town Manhattan building directly across from Lincoln Center, the Board paid yearly wages of more than $50,000 to 157 employees. Three people received over $200,000 annually, with President Donald Stewart topping the list at $273,000 in compensation, $47,298 in benefits, and $46,000 more in expense and other allowance.

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since 1995 things went downhill for CB i guess and they are not in business for the money anymore, they sell us tests at a loss as a charity.</p>

<p>thanks to bman14 i decided to learn more and googled
<"college board" test revenue profit>.</p>

<p>hit #1 - a more recent document (Fall 2001):</p>

<p>The major firms in the U.S. K-12 testing industry are all for-profit companies. But the financial structure of the primary sponsors of college and graduate school admissions tests is superficially different. Companies such as the Educational Testing Service (ETS), the College Entrance Examination Board (College Board), and ACT (formerly American College Testing) are all set up as non-profit, tax exempt entities, allegedly because of their primarily educational missions.
However, a review of the informational tax returns of ETS, the College Board and ACT (public documents for exempt organizations under federal law) indicates that it is hard to tell the difference between the supposed “non profits” and their for-profit cousins. The companies all have substantial end-of-year surpluses, top heavy management, and very well paid executives.</p>

<p>At the College Board, sponsor of the SAT series of exams, the Advanced Placement (AP) tests and other products for the high school to college transition, revenue for the fiscal year ending June 30, 2000 was more than $298 million. Only $1.2 million of that total came from membership fees from the institutions whose admissions programs supposedly benefit from the testing programs; $291 million was in “program service revenue,” largely fees paid by test-takers’ parents. Expenses for the same period tallied $276 million, $168 million of which was passed on to ETS, which manufactures most of the Board-sponsored exams. Another $4.7 million was invested in collegeboard.com, a clearly for-profit, parallel business designed to sell coaching and other test-related products. Overall, the Board added $22 million to its net assets, driving its fund balance to just under $116 million.</p>

<p>College Board leaders were amply rewarded from this rich revenue stream. President Gaston Caperton, the former West Virginia politician whose fixation on promoting collegeboard.com has been condemned as “commercialism” by many educators, received $350,000 in salary for the year, with additional benefits of close to $54,000. At least fifteen College Board Vice Presidents and program directors reported total annual compensation in excess of $125,000.
If anything, financial rewards were even greater at ETS, maker of the SAT and AP as well as many graduate school admissions tests and the federal government’s National Assessment of Educational Progress. ETS revenues for the fiscal year ending June 30, 2000 totaled more than half a billion dollars: $514 million to be precise. Expenses were $485 million, leaving nearly $29 million in “un-profits.” ETS also is the sole owner of the Chauncey Group, a spin-off, for-profit firm that took in $4.4 million in the same period, largely for designing and administering occupational licensing exams.</p>

<p>In her final year at ETS, President and Chief Executive Officer Nancy Cole was paid $499,898, with additional benefits of $66,875. The pay of new ETS President Kurt Landgraf, a former international drug marketing executive (see Examiner, Summer 2000), was not reported because he did not begin work until the next fiscal year.
Sixteen ETS Vice Presidents and other corporate officers had total compensation of more than $200,000 with several topping the $300,000/year level. Even Trustees of the ETS Board shared in the largesse: several received more than $30,000 for attending a few meetings.</p>

<p>ACT, the major competitor to ETS and the College Board for university admissions exams, has long been “number two” in the industry. But ACT and its executives hardly face second class economic lives. Though the firm took in “just” $152 million in the fiscal year ending August 31, 2000, expenses were $130 million, leaving $22 million in excess revenues. ACT’s fund balance is now close to $144 million, more than its annual spending.
ACT President Richard Ferguson was paid $367,000, with an additional $83,309 in benefits and deferred compensation. Four ACT Vice Presidents each had annual financial packages in the neighborhood of $200,000. Each of ten ACT Trustees was paid about $15,000.</p>

<p>price(total revenue) - (land, labor, capitol, entrepreneurial return)</p>

<p>500 million - (mid-town Manhattan building rent, first-class accommodations and large salaries for College Board leaders, test production, three people receiving over $200,000 annually, with President Donald Stewart topping the list at $273,000 in compensation) = $0 profit, theoretically. </p>

<p>and dude, get a life man. collegeboard says they are non profit so just take their word and move the **** on. I'm pretty sure they wouldn't claim themselves as a non profit organization if they in reality, weren't. That would be a major break in the law and could get sued. and i don't know where your finding your sources, but i bet the are clearly NOT biased. if your so confident collegeboard lies about them being a non profit organization, go sue them for having a false statement in their copyrighted products.</p>

<p>if your so bent on techicality lets clear the issue.
wikipedia says

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nonprofit organization may ... legally and ethically trade at a profit.

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<p>as far as my sources, at the end of that article part of which i quoted is this note:

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Informational financial returns from the College Board, ETS, ACT and many other organizations tax exempt under federal law (yes, including FairTest) are available online at <a href="http://www.guidestar.org%5B/url%5D.%5B/quote%5D"&gt;http://www.guidestar.org.

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the article is definitely biased, but if what it says is true sure does not make me all fuzzy inside(forgot who said that on cc) about CB.
your right, time to move on pardner. im done.</p>

<p>has your mind been changed at all bman14?</p>