<p>I got defered and now now mom is worried that i won't get in anywhere! Do you all know of any good safety schools (esp. ones that use the common app)? I got V760 and M800, Writing 740, Math IC 760 and Bio 730 if that helps.... Here's to hopeing for a thick envelop in april</p>
<p>aisforadmission: thanks for your lovely, concise post, which everyone on this and similar boards ought to read. And, thanks for your excellent, useful books.</p>
<p>I don't agree with aisforadmission, if you are a legacy, you are more likely to be deferred because Yale admissons people know that you are more likely to matriculate if you are admitted. Instead, they give the early admissions to a highly qualified candidate that is likely to get into other competetive schools in hope that they will decide to go to Yale. It's important to keep their yeild% high so they can stay high in the rankings.</p>
<p>While Laertes may have a point that Yale feels inclined to give priority to desirable non-legacy candidates in the EA round (because they believe that legacies who are deferred then accepted RD are likely to enroll), US News & World Report actually dropped the yield factor from its ranking system last year.</p>
<p>From The New York Times, July 10, 2003:</p>
<p>College Rating by U.S. News Will Now Skip a Key Factor
By Jacques Steinberg</p>
<p>"Perhaps the most influential survey of American higher education is changing the way it ranks the nation's top colleges and universities, dropping from its ratings a statistic that many institutions had sought to manipulate in hopes of raising their ranking in the survey. </p>
<p>"As it prepares to release its annual rankings, U.S. News & World Report, which conducts the survey, has dropped from its formula a statistic known as the yield rate. That figure is the percentage of applicants accepted by a university who later enroll at that institution. </p>
<p>"U.S. News had placed little weight on the yield rate; the figure represented less than 2 percent of a college's overall score, the magazine said. But the institutions, eager to do anything that might raise their scores, had considered the rate, and its potential impact on rankings, important enough to admit more students under 'binding early decision' programs than they have in the past. </p>
<p>"Students who are accepted under such programs commit in advance to enroll at a college, so the practice automatically improves an institution's yield rate. In recent years, some Ivy League and other highly selective colleges have come to admit more than 40 percent of their freshman classes through such programs, before most applicants have even applied. Some guidance counselors and others have criticized such programs for pressuring students to decide on a college before they may have done enough research to know if that institution is right for them. </p>
<p>"Mindful that the use of the yield rate in the rankings formula had drawn them into the debate about early admissions, the editors of U. S. News decided to omit the figure this year, Sara Sklaroff, the magazine's education editor, said yesterday...."</p>
<p>good call editrix</p>
<p>to iplayoboe:
i feel exactly the same way. i feel like i've busted my butt for four years.. four years of absolute hell in a top-notch public school.. full IB, AP, extracurriculars.. all for nothing. really, you can say it's not really for nothing, but it sure feels like nothing when the admissions people say, "no, we're not gonna take you, sorry." i expected it.. but that doesn't mean it doesn't bother me still.</p>
<p>Hello again everyone! I was a lurker who "came out" a little while ago, but then I forgot to come on again. Any ways... I got into Yale! I'm so happy. I couldn't post in the original decisions thread because it was locked. But whatever...</p>
<p>Oh, and CONGRATULATIONS to everyone else who was accepted! And good luck to everyone else! ;)</p>
<p>I have a dumb question.</p>
<p>If you get deferred, do you send in another application? Or do they still have your previous one and you don't do anything except wait until April?</p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
<p>They still have your old application, and they re-review it in March. While it's not necessary to send anything in, many people choose to supplement their old application with information about new awards they've won or possibly an additional essay or recommendation.</p>
<p>Thanks selia27,</p>
<p>Do you think it's better to send something extra in?</p>
<p>Like suppose you joined a new team, club, job, etc, is that worth telling them?</p>
<p>Thanks again :)</p>
<p>Ah, that's the million-dollar question. Everyone has a different opinion on this and no one's is necessarily right. Go on Google for info, browse through the deferred threads on the Ivy forums...the general consensus seems to be that, unless you know of a specific area where the adcom thought your app was lacking, just inform them of anything major that happens (like a big-deal award or something)....but don't take my word for it, go ahead and research it yourself.</p>
<p>To all those deferred from Yale. There really is still hope, especially if you are from california. I talked to an admissions guy and he said he is a big fan of Accept and Deny. The only reason he defers people is because he just wants to accept you RD, for the numbers I guess.</p>
<p>Yasdnil, can you give more details about what the adcom said? My S was deferred and I am wondering about whether we should 1) have the GC call and 2) try to get an alumni interview.</p>
<p>Yulsie,
For what it's worth....My opinion is that a call from Guidance would have more impact...providing that person could provide some personal insights into your S's high school passions and interest in attending. There have been numerous threads on interviews but I really don't think they have much positive effect. Now please understand this is purely anecdotal and is based on this: When I asked my son how his interview went, he said "It was OK but not the best". When he arrived at Bulldog days, the adcom knew him and commented on how much his GC was raving about him. Now maybe it was just making conversation - but who knows????</p>
<p>Hey, everybody, take a look at rooneyfan1987's post. "Yale is above all an academic institution..." ??????</p>
<p>yeah, cruncha, that sounds like BS. can you get in with a 1220? if we're letting applicants in for their football skills, why does the team blow?</p>
<p>just throw it all away
colleges, apps, everything
i'm too tired..i never thought it would be such a pain to go to college
just..too tired...too tired to think, too tired to study, too tired to work
i'm glad regular apps are over now</p>
<p>Be Happy! Get Some Rest! Dance! Sing! Okay, But Be Happy!</p>
<p>yeah :D
i don't know what got into me when i put up that post..
now that apps are over i can finally get on with life!</p>
<p>Like10thousand---sorry I just checked back here 2 months later, but that really did happen...and it was in a Connecticut "A"-Group town (Fairfield County/top schools). i got he story separately from my cousin who lives there but goes to Exeter; supposedly the top 5 GPA's were all extraordinary kids, so we'll see what happens RD, but the student population there is pretty horrified. She says it was a big ugly thing in that town. Not to knock the kid who got in, lucky him,---it is the fact that he got in in preference to those who believed "Yale is primarily an academic institution". You can imagine how disillusioning that is for kids who spent their lives slaving away at a gatekeeper school (that is, crazy rigorous, according to my cousin whose friends at that high school spend summers doing mountains of work for upcoming AP courses.) The statement it made is ugly, especially to kids who believed in the process: work hard, go to an Ivy. Kinda yucky. Nobody would have minded at all if they had just taken one token academic kid...if you ask me, it was bad P.R., but like Hernandez says, EA is to fill teams and quotas, which they have to do. Nobody said life is fair, and there's proof!</p>