dismissed student

<p>Hey guys, I would love to see if you guys can help out with a situation I have. I've attended a State University for a year and a half (with an additional summer semester in between), and unfortunately, I've failed to raise my grades up and have been academically dismissed from said State uni. Now, I've asked the school and apparently there's literally no way I can get back into the school unless I wait 10 years for my records to clear out.... which is just absurd. So my question is, is there any way I can attend another college starting out fresh as a freshman? I'm not talking about lying and deceiving them, pretending to have just fooled around after high school, only to apply a year and a half later, but I mean just giving up my credits and starting fresh, after informing the new school of my situation with the previous state school. I heard/read a lot on here about transferring to a CC first, but my current situation (as I'm a green card holder/permanent resident) in the states without my parents, kind of sets me back in a lot of ways. Thank you for your time guys.</p>

<p>Wait, your college doesn’t let you appeal poor academic performance?? That seems harsh.</p>

<p>I’ll be honest with you, I’ve never heard of someone being allowed to ‘erase’ their academic history and start over as a freshman after leaving any school for any reason. It might be possible, but I can’t think of a single circumstance where the old college transcript simply disappears, even if you waited 10 years. You might be able to work something out with individual schools though but by and large all public accredited universities will want your transcript from any other college that you have attended since high school.</p>

<p>Is there a reason why you can’t transfer to another university instead as a transfer student? I mean, that’s really what you want to do, right? You’re at School #1, you were dismissed, and now you want to transfer to School #2.</p>

<p>Honestly, I would take that energy and use it towards figuring out what went wrong at the last school so that you can fix it at the new school. If you have a really strong reasoning/plan on where you had problems before and how you can solve them now, that might even help you out at your second college in terms of admissions.</p>

<p>You need to figure out what went wrong…for 1 1/2 years that places you in this position. Clearly, this is not the first time your grades have been on the less than stellar side. Now you are in a panic…what was going on the last 1 1/2 years that prevented you from passing your courses…even WITH some warning about these poor grades and the consequences.</p>

<p>You really can’t ignore the poor grades you have received, and you can’t just start over pretending that you never went to college. ALL colleges will ask for transcripts from previous colleges…and all colleges frown on dishonesty,so you will have to provide them.</p>

<p>But here is what you CAN do. Most community colleges have open enrollment. This means that your failing grades will not prevent you from enrolling at the community college. Take courses there…and make it your business to get all A and B grades…mostly A would be better. When you enroll, go immediately to discuss your situation with the advisor who handles transfers from the CC to four year schools. They should be able to help you.</p>

<p>I would strongly suggest you start off slowly. Get a part time job, and only take a course or two. Remember, your goal is to prove you can actually do college work well.</p>

<p>A bigger issue you have…who is paying for your schooling? It is very likely that you won’t qualify for a penny of federally funded need based aid, including loans, because you have not met satisfactory academic progress.</p>

<p>appreciate both of your inputs, thank you for taking the time to help me solve my problems. What I meant when I said entering as a freshman in another college was that I would contact the admissions office tell them of my previous failure at another school and see if they’ll let me come in as a freshman or not. Do schools normally allow this kind of thing?</p>

<p>You might be classified as a freshman if you don’t have enough credits to be considered a sophomore, but most school do not just dismiss your history and will ‘count’ those other classes and gpa. Some of the classes will not be transferred for credit if you did not pass them.</p>

<p>If you are asking can you just start over, usually the answer is no. You would be a transfer student.</p>

<p>Actually, when you apply for admission to a new school, they WILL look at your GPA from your previous school. You would best be served going to a place with open enrollment. You might not get accepted elsewhere due to your poor academic record.</p>

<p>But once you DO get accepted…most schools actually do NOT use the GPA from other schools in their own calculations for cumulative GPA. They use only grades awarded at their school.</p>

<p>Seriously…go open enrollment.</p>

<p>Another thought…some,schools will allow a non-matriculated student take up to 9 credits. That is about three courses. Go and talk to someone at one of your public universities and see if this is possible. The thing to find out…if you do very well, can you then apply to matriculate at that school. When you have not matriculated, you are not eligible for any financial aid at all.</p>

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heard/read a lot on here about transferring to a CC first, but my current situation (as I’m a green card holder/permanent resident) in the states without my parents, kind of sets me back in a lot of ways. Thank you for your time guys.
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<p>Well, you’d be OOS for any state univ anyway. and privates are a LOT more expensive than OOS for a CC, so what is your point?</p>

<p>Who is paying for all of your college costs? Are your parents fine with continuing paying for a child that is failing classes? </p>

<p>How much will your family pay per year?</p>

<p>The very fist thing you need to do is figure out what went wrong…and get a plan for making sure this doesn’t repeat itself again.</p>

<p>Part of that plan can be taking some community college courses…one at a time…then two at a time…and get As in those courses…or Bs…you need to demonstrate that you can PASS college courses or NO college which requires an application for admission is going to accept you. The on,y places you can go where your previous failing grades won’t matter are OPEN ENROLLMENT schools that accept anyone who signs up. </p>

<p>And because of your failing track record, you will be a full pay student regardless of where you go…you certainly have NOT met Satisfactory Academic Progress…and therefor will not be eligible for aid until you do.</p>

<p>This is why I suggested a community college with a course or two…and get a JOB…and work.</p>

<p>Now is the time for self-evaluation, not college shopping.</p>

<p>The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result.</p>

<p>No matter what new college you choose to attend, you drag the same baggage, bad study habits, depression, whatever is contributing to the low GPA, along with you.</p>

<p>Until you take time to diagnose and work on the issues that are dragging you down, it is useless to continue your academic studies. And if your parents are paying for your studies, it is insulting and disrespectful for you to waste their funds.</p>

<p>I say these harsh words to get your attention, not to demean you. I have no insight into why you are doing poorly, and want to encourage you to take this opportunity to make changes for future success.</p>

<p>thanks for all your input guys. I decided to go to a community college first and then transfer back to another 4 year institution. I was wondering though, if I wanted my credits from the first 4 year college I attended (Rutgers) transferred to the community college, can I do so? I plan to attend bergen community college if that helps.</p>

<p>You can apply to enter the community college, and that application will include having a transcript sent. The community college will then get a record of credits earned to date and the credits can be transferred, in the classes in which your grades were adequate (usually not D’s and below, you can look up the credit transfer policy at Bergen online).</p>