<p>I know that the number of students accepted outside the UK is less than 20 for each school, does anyone know the exact number of Americans accepted to either for Medicine? If you do study Medicine for 6 years after high school, do you know what it takes to enter the US to practice medicine? Thank you!</p>
<p>You might find these helpful:</p>
<p>The official AMA rules on practicing medicine in the US with a foreign qualification:</p>
<p><a href=“http://www.ama-assn.org//ama/pub/about-ama/our-people/member-groups-sections/international-medical-graduates/practicing-medicine.page”>http://www.ama-assn.org//ama/pub/about-ama/our-people/member-groups-sections/international-medical-graduates/practicing-medicine.page</a></p>
<p>…and a blog about the experience of a Cambridge grad who did their residency in the US:</p>
<p><a href=“Medical School in the UK, Residency in the US – Mama Doctor Jones”>http://mindonmed.com/2011/06/medical-school-in-the-uk-residency-in-the-us.html</a></p>
<p>(also, I see that you asked about APs v SATIIs- on the websites they say that either are ok, but anecdotally I have heard that the perception is APs > SATIIs (which is not unreasonable- APs are a good bit more challenging than SATIIs). I do know one person who got into Oxford last year for Maths with just an SAT + 3 SATIIs, but he blew the Math Aptitude Test (MAT) out of the water and did the same in his interview- but I suspect he is the exception that proves the rule. </p>
<p>This is helpful. Thank you so much. It may be late for more APs, when my son has taken 5 SAT subject tests, and only 3 APs.</p>
<p>That is really fine (if most/all of them are reasonably relevant)- it’s just that Medicine is a separate universe.</p>
<p>That makes sense. Do you know if the Biomedical Sciences is a strong degree from either University, Cambridge/Oxford? If it is so difficult to get into Medicine, maybe the next tier within the sciences is a better way to go? Especially as an American?</p>
<p>Absolutely. And they are super programs. Remember that it is <em>not</em> a lower tier- in fact, there is considerable overlap, and in year 3 both your courses are chosen from the medical school offerings: </p>
<p><a href=“http://www.medsci.ox.ac.uk/study/bms/course”>http://www.medsci.ox.ac.uk/study/bms/course</a> </p>
<p>The only thing that I would say is to do a bit of homework- the US system makes it hard for anybody who hasn’t done the core ‘pre-med’ courses in the US or Canada (I know- both ends seem to work against the middle!). </p>
<p>The easiest way to do that would be to take the four standard pre-req courses- Bio, Chem, Organic & Physics- during summer sessions at the local university over the the summer break. Also know as the ‘long vac’ it runs from late June to mid-Oct, so doing a summer course during July & August would still leave Sept & half of Oct for R&R. A certain amount of the material will have already been done during term, so it shouldn’t be as brutal as starting from scratch. Also, after the intensity and speed of Oxbridge terms, it will feel almost easy. </p>
<p>If he’s <em>really</em> ahead of himself, he could even do two at a local uni summer after 12th grade- especially in subjects for which he has already done the AP- then the 3rd the summer after 1st year, and the last one during the summer after 2nd year. That would put him in a position to apply to medical school the autumn of 3rd year. The biomed course is 3 years, so it would be 7 v 8 years- with undergrad at Oxbridge. And, he would end up superbly prepared to apply to <em>any</em> US medical school. </p>
<p>This is terrific. It is hard trying to peruse all of the pages of these sites to find the answers to all of our questions and you have been a tremendous help. Thank you so much. Many American friends believe that Oxford and Cambridge are good choices for US students only at the grad school level, but not for undergrad, but I see that it can be done. Thank you very much!</p>
<p>Very welcome 
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<p>Encourage your son to look at the specific courses- there is very detailed info on each one online, and he should choose one that he thinks is genuinely interesting. Oxbridge tutors (professors) want students who love their subject, and they like evidence of that love being expressed outside the classroom environment- knowing that may help him focus his ECs, and the narrative for his Personal Statement. </p>
<p>Oxford is an amazing undergrad experience- if you want to be immersed in your subject, and are pretty self-motivated. There is much less hand-holding than in the US, but the kids stick together and form really tight bonds. </p>
<p>There is a UK version of CC called the student r o o m (altogether, just spaced out here to avoid CCs filters) that your son will find helpful (you can lurk, but it’s really a student place). </p>
<p>Some threads that might be especially helpful are:</p>
<p>“I’m an American Considering Applying to Oxford” </p>
<p>“What do you want to know about Oxford” </p>
<p>“Americans Applying to University in the UK” </p>
<p>“Official Oxford [Cambridge] Applicants for 2015 Entry*” (if that is the year he would enter- this is a great thread, as the students move together through application to interview offers to offer holder to freshers; the thread for 2016 entry will start in late spring next year).</p>
<p>Aside from moral support and finding fellow travelers, there are great resources there- for example, they have (vetted) students who will help read your Personal Statement and give feedback (which should <em>always</em> be taken judiciously of course) during the summer before you apply.</p>
<p>*UK does it by year of entry, not year of completion.</p>
<p>Are you, by chance, a professor? Your knowledge base is immense. These tips are truly wonderful. My son would be happy with either Medicine or Biomedicine, but worries about his chances for acceptance if he applies for Medicine. He studied one summer at Oxford, and took history classes, which he loved. This experience made him very interested in looking at Oxford and Cambridge. He is going to take the BMAT test in October. I bought him a review book because there are no prep classes in America for the BMAT. I am hoping it goes well… Thanks again. </p>