<p>Muy confused-o…</p>
<p>Claps to stressed for making a great thread! <em>pats stressed on the back</em></p>
<p>@redhuntinghat sorry! the thread just seems to be going very fast xD
but the thing with your example is that many people see premaritial sex as immoral. so saying that they should be aware for the sake of having safe sex doesn’t really apply.</p>
<p>I don’t think people who don’t know about sex are completely confused and immature. that seems to be an assumption of many “pro-sex” (I know that’s not the right term, but bare with me :/) people think, but they’re the only ones. the people whose lives have actually gone that way often don’t regret it or think that they’re lives were huge rollercoasters just because of it.</p>
<p>maturity… I mean, it seems like a lot of teenagers connect knowledge about sex to level of maturity. but I find that in and of itself is a sign of immaturity. they don’t really know what maturity is</p>
<p>@Niquii assuming you’re not being sarcastic, you’re welcome 
<em>bows</em> I accept roses and greeting cards</p>
<p>^^^
By shaming, I meant that when kids (especially younger kids) ask questions about sex they are often told they shouldn’t ask that kind of question, or they’re given a blatantly wrong answer so the adult can avoid embarrassment. </p>
<p>“not being knowledgable something isn’t lying”</p>
<p>Sometimes there are actual lies being told, but more often it’s a sort of censorship/lying by omission or pretending the issue doesn’t exist. Sex isn’t some arcane thing that only a few people will actually use in real life, so I think it’s very important that people be given factual information about it, just like with other medical problems/questions.</p>
<p>@halycon oh, okay. but just telling the kid “you’ll know whenyou’re older” doesn’t seem like a big deal. lying does bother me though. anddd I might give a more thorough answer later</p>
<p>okay, I really have to go do some work… I’ll come back tomorrow. or possibly on tues.</p>
<p>I agree that a person should know about how their body and reproductive system works, and we did learn in 9th grade, but obviously some parts were taught quite ambiguously. My teacher just said, “When the sperm meets the egg, this happens.” And then one kid asked how they meet. But that’s about as far as it goes. In terms of sexuality, guys learn about it earlier than girls for obvious reasons but they don’t necessarily learn about sex till they’re like 18 ( at least some of them). From my experience, these kids grow up blissfully unaware and then learn 2 weeks before they get married about their wedding night. Which if that works for them, is fine.</p>
<p>Oh ok. Well I guess the answer got lost in the whole “all the girls on here are being hypocrites and generalizing” mumbo jumbo.</p>
<p>Niquii, I think you had valid points. </p>
<p>Ah well, that’s why there are girls and guys. So at least half the population will be right. ;)</p>
<p>@halcyon- 15…story of my life. Well at least my friends’ lives.
If I’m saying stuff that was already addressed 3 pages back, sorry. I’m on a phone which is going really slow now. :rolleyes:</p>
<p>I’ll answer the question originally posed. I would say that my circle of friends is approximately 35% girls, 65% guys.</p>
<p>Yes, I have plenty of friends who are girls who I have a strictly platonic relationship with.
If given the opportunity, are there some who I would gladly start a more romantic relationship with? Absolutely.</p>
<p>Do I have to want a girl to be in my pants to be “friends” with her? No, but maybe that’s just me.</p>
<p>As a guy, I have mostly guy friends. They’re just easier to get along with, in my experience. They’re less up and down. I only have one true female friend, and we’re more like close acquaintances anyway. But for the most part, if I start talking to a girl and ‘befriending’ her, I’m looking to be more than friends. I would say for MOST guys, that’s also the case.</p>
<p>But let me make it clear that I have plenty of female acquaintances whose pants I’m not trying to get in. But acquaintances aren’t friends.</p>
<p>In my experience, the female attention span is shorter than the male attention span. Maybe that’s not universal, but I’ve encountered more guys than girls who are willing to dedicate a lot of attention to something esoteric or otherwise detached from everyday mundane and social life. That really affects my respect for someone and the ease with which I can develop a friendship.</p>
<p>If you’re friends with a girl that you don’t find attractive then you won’t wanna be more with them. Problem solved. However one of my best friends is an extremely beautiful senior. I love everything about her, especially her personality, yet I’m not really after her. I think that it’s because she’s two years older. If she was the same age I’d probably be drooling over her like the rest of the school does.</p>
<p>I agree 100% with 000Chet.</p>
<p>Please stick to the original topic so that I don’t have to close the thread.</p>
<p><em>slinks away in shame</em> :o</p>
<p>“Maybe that’s not universal, but I’ve encountered more guys than girls who are willing to dedicate a lot of attention to something esoteric or otherwise detached from everyday mundane and social life.”</p>
<p>Really? Can you mail me one?</p>
<p>I’m a guy. I’d say 70% of my friends are girls and 30% are guys.
I guess I’d justify this by saying that most guys I know are stupid (not unintelligent, but they say stupid stuff, do stupid things, etc.)</p>
<p>^I guess that’s why I like hanging out with guys better. I like doing stupid things. In fact, I have a set of friends that I consider my “bad decision” friends. It’s hard for me to make bad decisions myself, so I need others to pressure me into doing it sometimes.</p>
<p>Do any girls want guy friends?</p>
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<p>Even males like that aren’t very common, but my best friend is a likeminded intellectual who agrees with me on many things and disagrees on many others, but the important part is that we bond by debating. Actually, the most important thing is that we’re there for each other when needed, but in the meantime we become closer by competing with each other.</p>
<p>That’s another reason I often find it hard to relate to girls. For me, disagreement is an inevitable part of human interaction (becoming more likely when people become closer friends) and the way I turn disagreement into friendship-building is by debating over it. With some people I know, I could debate about one thing for hours, over anything from a theoretical concept to an immediate conflict of interest, and although it could lead to mental exhaustion, it doesn’t produce any hard feelings. The fundamental sign of a good human relationship is that you can take things between you that would turn you into enemies if you were animals, and separate it into a conflict that is parallel to and isolated from the friendship. That skill of abstraction is fundamental to humans’ superiority over animals, and if everyone utilized it perfectly, there would be world peace.</p>
<p>Usually when I encounter a conflict with a girl or I witness a guy and a girl having a conflict with each other, the girl is more emotional about it and she’s the first either to go into attack mode or to start giving the silent treatment. It’s so difficult to develop a healthy or productive relationship with someone who takes your sincere attempt to bond with her and throws it in back your face. When you give someone the benefit of the doubt because you want to be fair to her because you respect her, and she turns it into a fight, what is left for you to do?</p>
<p>I’m not saying this is universal to girls, and many guys are just as b**chy, but in my experience, the percentage of guys who are reasonable is greater than the percentage of girls.</p>
<p>One of the biggest immediate turn-offs is the “you just have to be right about everything” accusation. It comes from lesser minds that can’t relate to the complexity of the process of an intelligent person changing the way he thinks, seeing things from a different perspective, and discovering how the new way of thinking makes sense.</p>
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I just imagined you and a girl debating, she stomps away, and you’re just like, “Baby, I’m only trying to bond with you!” </p>
<p>…well it was humorous in my mind :rolleyes:</p>
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I have group of guy friends that are like that. Usually, no good comes from hanging out with the after a certain time period. If I try to mesh my level headed friend group with my bad decision friend group, nine times out of ten my level headed friend group says they don’t want to hang out anymore or if we all ended up hanging out one of them ends up leaving.</p>
<p>Wow, that was very negative. I promise, that’s not how I normally perceive girls. It’s just an attempt to explain how male friendships are often easier to maintain than female friendships.</p>
<p>EDIT: this was my reaction to my own post, not to Niquii77’s.</p>