<p>your parents need a reality check. for example, duke is ranked 8 i think. brown is 16. by your parents logic, brown is a far better school that duke (my opinion, anything in the top 20ish is pretty muddled). so, they should realize that there are great "name rec" schools outside the top 5 that arent ivy. also, who cares about name rec. its your school, not theirs.</p>
<p>as far as your rice/uchicago question and your criteria, id say penn and brown would be good pics. brown/rice/chicago are all pretty intellectual, but brown and uchicago are on opposite ends of the political spectrum if that makes any difference for you. chicago is not laid back though...</p>
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<p>I don't think this is true. Yes, the U of C had some famous professors such as Milton Friedman, but in my experience the student body is not composed of right-wingers or committed libertarians. (Libertarianism is often attractive to bright adolescents, witness the popularity of Ayn Rand amongst them. But most end up moderating their position.)</p>
<p>Yale is not suburban. It is located in a city. New Haven doesn't have the cultural resources of cities like New York, Chicago, or Boston, just to name a few. But on the other hand it is about an hour to Manhattan via train.</p>
<p>I’d say Brown matches a lot of those criteria - not phenomenal dining hall food, but I don’t dislike eating it. I don’t get a super pre-professional vibe though. I don’t at all think that’s a bad thing. The open curriculum really fosters exploration.</p>
<p>I think in terms of intellectual exploration/curiosity, and a school that cares a lot about its undergrads, Brown is probably the most similar Ivy to Chicago.</p>
<p>but honestly, that’s not saying much. “Ivy League football, whooo!”</p>
<p>if you are looking for that kind of atmosphere, you could look at Duke or Stanford. not Ivy League, but they are equal in academics to Ivy schools. Actually, they are better than most of them.</p>
<p>First of all, I love the audacity of the question do any Ivy league schools fit MY standards!</p>
<p>I wish all students were this confident and certain about what they want!</p>
<p>Now to your question, I am going to broaden it a bit. Many schools have been mentioned (most private) but I think many others offer Ivy league caliber POTENTIAL IF YOU are on top of your studies and will get you to any grad/law/med school you want if you do well.</p>
<p>Notre Dame, Michigan, Virginia, UCLA, Berkeley, Wisconsin, Northwestern, Vanderbilt, UNC, Boston College and Illinois (esp Engineering)</p>