I’ve looked at some threads, usually from years ago, that argue that Barnard can’t know if you’ve applied to Columbia and your app content unless you somehow make that clear in your app, and vice versa. These responses usually come from parents of alumni so I have a hard time believing them as most of them don’t cite officials or any other evidence.
I want to know if you heard from actual admissions people, or know from people who know admissions people if they share info about applicants. I just wanna know if you have good sources and not speaking from your own guess; That’s all.
I guess if you have a good guess, that’s fine here.
Even if there might be policies where schools can’t discuss applicants, it seems like they could talk to each other because of their proximity.
They are distinct academic institutions that do not share their academic admissions decisions. This was listed in their literature in last year’s applications cycle. I would look for the booklet and quote it, but it’s kind of still Christmas time, and I’m doing other things.
You can’t as few things in life are certain. But who cares? You can’t do anything about it, right? What precisely would you differently if they did talk to each other?
lmao BARNARD requires full testing history and Columbia doesn’t. They could discuss some shortcomings in testing history. why a student submit this or that. that’s mainly why it matters - what you send. Plus I was going to discuss how much I love their campuses but it will sound the same- could discuss.
@3CsinLife oh I didn’t know that. You think that ivies talk to each other or does it happen depending on their relationship like how close one is to another? do u know in what case they might?
Are you going to be a dynamic applicant, one the schools are going to make overtures at enrolling?
Is there something, looking at your profile and accomplishments, that makes your application compelling enough to have admissions officers who are in receipt of thousands of applications pull yours out and cross the street and discuss?
You would know these things more than anyone else, and you can consider that.
Sure, anything is possible, but is it probable or likely? What would make it so, OP?
@livedexperience8 It is a known fact that the schools talk to each other. Particularly the Ivys. They often talk to each other before they give an offer…they on occasion negotiate which school will give an offer.
@3CsinLife You’re passing off rumor/mythology as fact. What you’re discussing is clearly a violation of FERPA. Could a system be established to cross reference EA/ED applicants among the Ivies? Yes. Do they coordinate offers for RD – that’d be absurd.
@T26E4 is correct, and @3CsinLife 's “common knowledge” claims should be taken with copious salt. And too much salt can be bad for your health. I’d advise readers to disregard.
OP, when you do some reading online and go into the history between Barnard and Columbia, you will sometimes come away with the idea that there is almost, at times, an adversarial relationship between certain elements of their relationship. This would certainly make me believe, where Barnard and Columbia are concerned, anyway, that where the act to remain completely …sovereign and independent in the particular ways their operational agreement or contract is written, that no, they would not regularly, if at all, share this information in any official way.
I do know someone who worked at Barnard (as recently as last year) and who read applications. She was so swamped this time of year that I am quite sure she didn’t have the inclination/interest to compare applicants with Columbia admissions officers who were equally busy.
Proximity doesn’t mean anything as Columbia and Barnard don’t share a common admissions office
If Columbia wanted full testing all they would have to do is ask for it themselves.
