<p>artsmarts,
I agree with your post #19. Though, I did have a student a few years ago use the same portfolio based on the Chicago guidelines (mostly life drawings) receive an offer from Cooper. He didn’t go, and is now a physics professor at Grinnell. I love it when students are right/left brained. </p>
<p>bears and dogs,
I’m a woman & I teach in Iowa. I was one of five children (3 girls & 2 boys) who all had poverty and drive. We all graduated from 4 year universities and all have graduate degrees. We are all firm believers that education is one of the great levelers. I know you all agree!</p>
<p>artsmarts,
I agree with your post #19. Though, I did have a student a few years ago use the same portfolio based on the Chicago guidelines (mostly life drawings) receive an offer from Cooper. He didn’t go, and is now a physics professor at Grinnell. I love it when students are right/left brained. </p>
<p>bears and dogs,
I’m a woman & I teach in Iowa. I was one of five children (3 girls & 2 boys) who all had poverty and drive. We all graduated from 4 year universities and all have graduate degrees. We are all firm believers that education is one of the great levelers. I know you all agree!</p>
<p>Hi
I’m assuming you took your class to that portfolio review meeting thingie SAIC does in the ballroom. It’s great, I think the presentation we saw was one of the most useful I’ve seen, especially for kids coming from schools that don’t really touch upon the portfolio requirements or aren’t clear about what is involved.</p>
<p>So kudos to you for being an on top of it helpful and supportive teacher!</p>
<p>wow
sorry about that
that makes you were teaching/ getting masters/ carrying and delivering and raising infant at the same time? or was it part time each?</p>
<p>and if the kid is now prof, how long ago was that the kid gotten in Cooper?
what was like hometest back then?
and what was like SAIC back then?
do you see any significant difference nowadays?
cooper had physics major at one point. and I did hear it was way more academics oriented, even for art major.
SAIC is all mixed bag, I have friends in stretch of four decades went there and if you listen to what they have to say, you don’t believe its the same school.
this makes thing much harder for today’s kids. they never know what they are getting into until they are out!!</p>
<p>The masters was spread out over 2.5 years. I went 3x a week during that time. Taught full time. Was told I couldn’t have children… Oh look! First child was a year old during thesis and comps. Was tough but made me a better teacher.</p>
<p>The physics prof is now 36. Was an exceptional student, who was raised by a college administrator and high school art teacher. Didn’t go to Cooper. Undergrad at Grinnell and graduate/phd/post doc at U of I, Case Western & Harvard. (I just looked it up.)</p>
<p>Here’s a question that is slightly related to this thread. Three years ago I received a letter from a former student who was a National Merit Scholar who went to Iowa State University on a full ride (they have a fabulous program for NMerits). He is a graphic designer who designs book covers for a very well known publisher and has a solid job. He maintained in his letter that graphic design and many of the art related disciplines are impossible fields to get jobs and have been for almost a decade. He lamented that art school graduates, though VERY qualified are now fighting for incredibly low paying jobs, as art schools continue to pump out talented but soon to be unemployed graduates. He encouraged students to think twice, and unless they are driven, to tread carefully…</p>
<p>I have two students that graduated top of their classes in 2009 in Interior Design and Fashion Design from a highly ranked university. Took 2 years to find jobs, and then the jobs weren’t design related.</p>
<p>My college roommate, who is an art teacher, has a daughter who graduated #1 in her high school class of 500 who got a degree in animation from one of the best art schools in the Midwest. Her work is fabulous! 1.5 years later, still living at home and looking for a job.</p>
<p>This breaks my heart. I love art and want the students that love art to also practice it. But if it costs big bucks to follow your passion and then the end result is minimum wage, that is devastating! Your thoughts?</p>
<p>there is this sweet Iowan mom of everything going Cooper kid (NMF free ride if she stayed instate, huge scholarships elsewhere) always thinking about what happens to her D after Cooper or grad school job wise.
They are now busy packing for the trip to Europe so maybe not reading your post, which is a good thing, do not spoil their trip!! LOL
thing is, now even law engineer business degrees are in the back to parents’ couch mode.
there really no way to be sure.
art is not to blame. economy, technology, outsourcing, capitalisum, tsunami. blame what you want and things are not gonna be easy for our kids.
but art, feeds soul. stays with you. make you happy no matter what, for the right kind of people.
It will never die. I am happy I did it, and happy to have kid who gets it.
you ditched fortune what-numbered job to teach art. you wouldn’t do anything differently, would you?
it doesn’t take much money or effort to just live (eat, have roof of some sort) here in US. we should count our lucky stars while it last.
well, world is supposedly ending on May21st. so there.</p>
<p>I know what I’m about to post is separation of church and state for a teacher, but I pray over every child’s head sporadically that “all will work well” for them. These are difficult times. Onward and upward, right??</p>
<p>Shoot! Graduation’s on the 29th! I guess I don’t have to finish the graduation slide show if it all ends on the 21st. I think I’ll finish it just in case…</p>
<p>Look I wouldn’t even begin to describe myself as a “believer” but anyone who wants to “pray” over my kids head that life will go well is welcome to it. These days these kids need all the help they can get. I’ve even quietly muttered similar “prayers” before although with me it’s sort of a flung to the winds cry for whatever is out there to smile on my loved ones, not as directed as yours probably. </p>
<p>At any rate getting away from those forbidden topics (religion and politics) as for the possibility of “work” for graphic students I’ll post something in awhile. In a way he’s stating some truths although so is Bears. These days there’s really nothing that guarantees work, I just saw a photo in the NYTimes of a smiling grad with cap and gown and the headline was something about graduating into the worst economy since the Depression. And speaking of depression I must leave on that note and return later with some thoughts.</p>
<p>“My name is Jordan, I’m 17 and a high school junior looking to go to school for graphic design/communication design.”</p>
<p>I’m surprised no one suggested that you create some Graphic Design pieces, lol.</p>
<p>Graphic Design isn’t all about drawing well - heck, there are successful graphic designers that can’t draw. Drawing wise, you should be able to jot down your ideas/concepts clearly. </p>
<p>The only way to judge your potential in this field is by seeing some Graphic Design work, along with captions that show your thought processes. Honestly, it just looks like you can copy photographs well.</p>
<p>You definitely do. Those are amazing!</p>
<p>hey kid above, seems like you are out of your own fog now? that’s good.</p>
<p>OP did also say
-it’s what I enjoy the most! (Other than design, I have design pieces but not on this computer). </p>
<p>suppose OP got design under control and what have been asked here was about these (Jonas!) relation to drawings from observation that art school usually ask for, so that was what everyone here did reply. (OK OK sidetracked to about having baby while working and the judgment day)
also keep in mind that CMU is the aim, not any other trade schools.
let’s see what happens next!! (instead of Jonas)</p>
<p>Wow bears, can’t believe you remembered me, haha. 
Yeah, I found my way through challenging art projects, scholarship essays and great teachers. Thank you!</p>
<p>I guess I was just bothered that the OP had great technical ability, but there were no pieces that showed any conceptual ability (well on the front page that is, I didn’t look further through the folders). I recently went to a high school art show that displayed 4x5 works from various high schools. There were few that really stood out in terms of both technical and conceptual skills. The well-created ones look the same (especially those that were made from the same project), and the conceptual ones were just cliche. </p>
<p>Not many high school students have good design aesthetics and the conceptual side of art down, so as long as you have that along with your drawing ability, getting into these colleges will be easy.</p>
<p>why is that I can’t remember things that I should remember and can’t forget my some nosy big mouthed past …
I have this username dyslexia, that makes me pay attention to names, I think. and you got interesting name.</p>
<p>take it easy
that’s why you are going to college, to lean all them nice things.</p>