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Case: XXX is an US citizen but got accepted (not thru ) Timbuktu Mining College and Cornell ED...but he wants to go to TMC...so he can...bec TMC is not in US
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<p>No, that is wrong. Maybe no action would be taken against this person (i.e. the other college wouldn't revoke his admission and Cornell wouldn't sue him) but that doesn't mean not going to Cornell ED after being accepted is not illegal. It is also unethical and immoral.</p>
<p>well said...i'm just pointing out a flaw though, and how its not just int'l who can use it</p>
<p>That's what I was trying to get at before. While the liklihood of getting sued in international court or something, or having your home country arrest you and send you to the US for trial is impossibly small, I still don't think that it's actually legally permissable for ED not to be binding outside the US. Perhaps internationally colleges won't blacklist because of US ED violations, but I still haven't seen anything in writing that says ED contracts are geographically limited to the US.</p>
<p>CatherineFM, I agree with you wholeheartedly. Sparticus, well said. Arjun, I would imagine is correct. I don't imagine that Cornell can blacklist you from a university in another country, but I am of course just speculating.</p>
<p>So it's a practical loophole rather than a legal loophole? i.e. a breach of contract that they can't punish you for?</p>
<p>So it's a practical loophole rather than a legal loophole? i.e. a breach of contract that they can't punish you for?</p>
<p>That's exactly what I said to Arjun when on Dec 17 he was looking for ways to get out of his ED acceptance. 2 days after being accepted, most students were still on cloud 9, not thinking of ways to get out of an obligation. Certainly not in the right spirit.</p>
<p>Not being able to attend Cornell because their financial aid package isn't enough is completely different.</p>
<p>If one did not withdraw their other apps, and they were accepted to another school, could they defer their admission to the other school by a year. So they would go to the school they applied to early decision (in this case, Cornell) for a year, and then go to the other school. Could one defer their decision to attend a school they were admitted to for a year?</p>
<p>legally, it would all depend on the wording of the ED contract. If the ED contract says you "will attend if accepted," then theoretically that is legal. If the ED contract says you "will not apply anywhere else early," then I suppose that is also legal if you apply RD to the other school.</p>
<p>However, good luck deferring attendence at your 2nd school because you "want to take a year of classes at cornell university." And don't think about lying...you'd probably have your acceptance rescinded when the secret came out to school #2 when you tried to transfer your cornell credits. If you didn't tell school #2 ever, you'd have wasted your year at cornell. So it's possible, legally, but impractical, immoral, fiscally stupid, and pointless.</p>
<p>But wait, there's MORE!</p>
<p>Since in cornell's acceptance they require you to withdraw from other schools (can someone verify this, i'm going based on memory), you are required to withdraw and therefore cannot engage in the (pointless) procedure outlined above.</p>
<p>Why do people have to make ED so complicated?</p>
<p>I'm so glad I don't work in admissions. There is so much unethical crap people try to pull with respect to colleges. I just read about someone who sent in fake, negative recommendations to derail the chances of two other students from his high school applying to the same college as him.</p>
<p>Where'd you read that...do you have the link? That's absolutely insane.</p>
<p>yeah i read about that...he got rejected though in the one i read, because negative recommendations are very rare. especially two of them from one school from one teacher.</p>
<p>Wow, that's pathetic. What a winner :p.</p>
<p>Arjun you should read more on the Cornell website. Have you followed these instructions? I would call the number listed. there are also Scolarships at Cornell. I don't know who qualifies etc. But use the search facility instead of looking here for all the answers. Good luck.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.scholarships.com/%5B/url%5D">http://www.scholarships.com/</a></p>
<p>Arjun, does Cornell not give international applicants financial aid? If they don't, then you shouldn't (ethically) try to "get rid" of Cornell. Talk to them about it and say that you can't possibly afford it -- they might make a deal of some sort -- perhaps loans or perhaps work/study. Worse thing that can happen is that they won't let you back out or offer financial aid but then the chance of them doing anything about it to international applicants is low anyhow.</p>
<p>raghavp, clause of int'l givin in an ED app: "U WILL NOT SEEK FINACIAL AID OF ANY SORT IF ACCEPTED"</p>
<p>having signed that, if one now goes and ask "aid PLEASE" ; officers might not look at him/ her in the best of light</p>
<p>You're a bit grouchy mate, we're all just trying to help.</p>
<p>Havaldaar...i know u guys interpret CAPS as shoutin, but i don't</p>
<p>for me caps if EMPHASIS
so: REALLY bad/// is not shoutin...just emphasis on really</p>
<p>i'm not bein grouchy</p>