Do Jews fit in?

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<p>I love Dartmouth but I'm hesitant to go if I were accepted since it has the whole Waspy connotation and lowest % Jewish of the Ivies. I know there is a large % minority but that doesn't mean there is social equality. I don't practice religion or anything so I don't care about service or anything but are Jews generally accepted on the social scene and is there anti-semitism?</p>

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<p>I highly doubt you would be singled out for being Jewish. My Jewish friends seem to have no problem with discrimination or anything of that sort.</p>

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<p>A few points to consider:

  1. This is America
  2. This is America in the year 2013
  3. This is an Ivy League institution in America in the year of 2013</p>

<p>I personally doubt that there is any sort of discrimination or social wedge between Jews and non-Jews (such as WASPs) at Dartmouth or very many other institutions at the caliber of Dartmouth. When you ask if there is social equality, you are asking an incredibly ambiguous question since ‘social equality’ is damn hard to specify. If you’ve been to some sort of DECA, FBLA, Key Club, MUN, JSA, or other academic/debate regional competition, have you ever felt ‘socially unequal’? People at those events are likely to be the type of people at Dartmouth, just to give you a very rough idea. Ivy League institutions these days are much more bent on getting a highly qualified and diverse student body (as opposed to just admitting well-off boys from families with high social standings). Of course there’s always going to be at least a small presence of social cliques everywhere, but the Ivy League student demographic I doubt is ignorant enough to hold any serious racial or ethnic biases on any significant enough of a scale to concern you.</p>

<p>This actually got me curious so I went ahead looked up Dartmouth’s most notorious “WASP” frat as of late, SAE. Look at its brothers:
[Sigma</a> Alpha Epsilon - New Hampshire Alpha, Dartmouth College](<a href=“http://www.dartmouth.edu/~sae/brothers.php]Sigma”>http://www.dartmouth.edu/~sae/brothers.php)
Good number of Asian (Eastern and South), Hispanic, and even a couple Jewish sounding names on that list. Would lead me to believe that your social situation at any school probably correlates to you and your personality a lot more than your ethnicity/religion. Plus you could probably just google ‘Jewish life at Dartmouth’ and find a plethora of resources and guidance on campus to help you out if you ever do feel any stigmas or pressure.</p>

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<p>Dartmouth indeed harbors anti-semtism.</p>

<p>There are overt flareups from time to time, including at a squash game against Harvard in 2009. (You can Google it.)</p>

<p>Dartmouth student spectators asked the Harvard squash team’s captain Franklin Cohen if he “liked bagels” and if he “cheated at business.”</p>

<p>There have been several other similar incidents on campus over the years that are documented; moreover, a friend of mine who graduated in 2010 said he was subjected to anti-Semitic harassment.</p>

<p>Take it from someone who studied there in the 1980’s, and who is apprised of current goings-on on campus: Dartmouth is a shockingly intolerant place.</p>

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<p>Must vehemently disagree with Alum. My daughter is a rising senior and has found a thriving Jewish community on campus and experienced no discrimination.</p>

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<p>Strongly agree with rgroden. My D is a '14. We are Jewish. She has had not one issue and she as a wide variety of friends of all races and religions.</p>

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<p>@DartmouthAlum: are you trolling us? </p>

<p>I can believe that there was SOME Antisemitism nearly three decades ago in the '80s, but seriously? I don’t think a few isolated incidents of slurs in an otherwise tolerant environment can constitute ‘shockingly intolerant’
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<p>You can use the search function to find DartmouthAlum’s generally negative posts on prior threads. You can read them and form your own opinion of his credibility.</p>

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<p>You will be fine. Take two heavy coats and don’t forget the three sweater to wear under the coats. GL</p>

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<p>Ok. Then don’t take my word for it; just Google “GOP Senate Hopeful Worked for Controversial Dartmouth Newspaper” to learn about the Anti-Defamation League investigation into the following quote published by a student newspaper: “By warding off the Jews, I am doing the Lord’s work.”</p>

<p>There are many other anti-semitic incidents documented sporadically over the years that can be found doing a simple web search. </p>

<p>But it’s not just Jews; it’s also Asians (including Dartmouth’s own past president); blacks; Hispanics; gays; and intellectuals who come in for denigration by “fellow” students.</p>

<p>Add in Dartmouth’s appalling problems with alcoholism and binge drinking, and you have an idea of what you’d be getting yourself into . . .</p>

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<p>Last year, Dartmouth was the only school in the Ivy League to see a drop in applications, and this spring/summer the College had to dip deep into its waiting list to fill the class for this fall; I believe it’s because parents and students are wising up to the social pathologies prevalent on campus.</p>

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<p>There’s anti Semitism at a lot of places. But as long as it’s not soul sucking or life threatening then get the ivy league diploma and then on to bigger and better things. GL.</p>

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<p>Indeed, Dartmouth’s last two presidents have bailed out quickly and gone on “to bigger and better things” . . .</p>

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<p>I hardly think that twelve years is a short presidency, DartmouthAlum. Or are you counting an interim president as one of them? If so, clearly you are reaching. </p>

<p>OP, I would suggest that you pay more attention to parents of current students. Look at his posting history.</p>

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<p>I am counting President Kim, who got the heck out of there after less than three years, and, yes, Interim President Folt, who high-tailed it to North Carolina.</p>

<p>As for my posting history, it consists 95% of ugly incidents at Dartmouth from the 1970’s to the present, all of which is copiously documented independently in the press.</p>

<p>Anybody who just starts googling will be appalled at the M.O. of both students and administration at this “world class” institution.</p>

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<p>A view of the Dartmouth student community, and the perils that Jews and other non-Wasp, non-heterosexual students can face:</p>

<p>Four items from student newspaper “The Dartmouth”, published on June 12, 2000:</p>

<p>‘Conservative pundit William F. Buckley gave a controversial speech in Rollins Chapel in late January. He said Dartmouth should not be afraid of the ideal on which he said the College was founded – to Christianize its students.’</p>

<p>‘A Dartmouth party in the fall gave rise to a widely printed Associated Press article and a discussion on ABC television’s “Politically Incorrect.” The so-called “ghetto party,” co-sponsored by Chi Gamma Epsilon fraternity and Alpha Xi Delta sorority, was criticized for being insensitive and racist.’</p>

<p>‘A round of hate mailings hit campus targeting homosexuals, Jews and other minority groups.’</p>

<p>'At the end of the term, Hanover Police arrested XXX XXXX ‘00 for trespassing on College property. XXXX had been evicted from his Topliff residence and banned from College property after allegedly writing several anti-Semitic threats, including “KKK, Kill Kosher Kikes” on the message board of the undergraduate advisor on his floor.’</p>

<p>And here’s a 2009 e-mail that was sent to much of campus upon the news that President Jim Yong Kim had been selected as the new president:</p>

<p>'Yesterday came the announcement that President of the College James Wright will be replaced by Chinaman Kim Jim Yong. And a little bit of me died inside.</p>

<p>It was a complete supplies.</p>

<p>On July 1, yet another hard-working American’s job will be taken by an immigrant willing to work in substandard conditions at near-subsistent wage, saving half his money and sending the rest home to his village in the form of traveler’s checks. Unless “Jim Yong Kim” means “I love Freedom” in Chinese, I don’t want anything to do with him. Dartmouth is America, not Panda Garden Rice Village Restaurant.</p>

<p>Y’all get ready for an Asianification under the guise of diversity under the actual Malaysian-invasion leadership instituted under the guise of diversity.’</p>

<p>Again, OP, this stuff is all over the place. Incidents like this happen over and over and over again, from the 1970’s, to the 1980’s, to the 1990’s, to the 2000’s, and up to today.</p>