Iowa State University, North Carolina State University, Michigan State University with honors giving good OOS money. Miami of Ohio. All schools give good OOS money.
If you can get into VTech problem solved. It’s a great engineer school and other majors.
Keep In mind that places like Purdue do not give much money if anything. Especially for OOS.
NC State!
@retiredfarmer - ABET accreditation should be regarded as mandatory for employment and graduate school in engineering, not just “recommended”. Most engineering employers in the private sector, and all federal and most state government engineering positions require the applicant to hold an ABET accredited engineering degree. If the student eventually wants to sit for the state Professional Engineer exam, an ABET accredited undergraduate degree is required in most cases.
Thank you so much for all the responses! It’s not just that I want to minor in business, but I don’t want everyone around me to be doing the same thing, if that makes sense. I could forgo the minor completely and be fine with it. I agree that I might be reach-heavy on my current list, but I created it based on Naviance and my counselor’s recommendations. ( I go to a decently known private school with difficult academics, if that helps)
Clark is a great University. They do not offer an Engineering major on campus. Like many Universities, they do have a 3/2 program with Columbia. After 5 years you would have two Bachelor degrees in different subjects. Like the “articulation” agreement programs you should read the program specifics carefully. See Clark’s at https://www2.clarku.edu/departments/physics/engineering/index.cfm.
In the same city, The College of the Holy Cross also has a 3/2 program with Columbia. Holy Cross meets the full demonstrated financial needs for all admitted students, See https://www.holycross.edu/academics/programs/3-2-program-engineering.
It is possible that you may be underestimating the quality of the non-engineering minors at some of the traditional STEM universities. Many are not the narrow technical programs of 30 plus years ago. Check out their faculties and offerings in minors. You still need to have the selection and flexibility to put together the subjects you want to study in an ABET program. A university may have very large departments in the non-engineering majors, but you need the flexibility to fit them into your engineering program. Not all of them are flexible. On the flip side, some of the more general Universities are still limited in their engineering offerings.
To make my point, the quality of the Humanities courses at MIT surpass those at many highly regarded non-STEM Universities. It is pretty complicated, but the administrative structure can get in the way of your program design. This happens in many larger universities where Engineering is actually a separate “college” within the university. Don’t assume you can select the courses you want because they are available somewhere on campus.
Look at “3-2” programs with a careful caveat emptor eye. Financial aid that may be awarded by the “3” school will not usually be transferred to the “2” school, and many “2” schools will not offer financial aid to the student in this type of program. You will need to spend an additional year in school and thus will not be in the job market until a year later, which is a significant opportunity cost. The additional degree in liberal arts you get from the “3” school (if that is what the 3-2 program is designed for) is not of much value to most engineering employers, it is the “2” engineering degree that will be the basis on which they will evaluate you as a future hire. I usually recommend against 3-2 programs for this reason. If you want to be an engineer, you are better served starting in an engineering school and finishing in 4 years (unless you are on a co-op program which also takes 5 years, but that program will give you experience in industry and a salary which IMO is more valuable than the additional degree with respect to your career after you graduate). Don’t discount minors in engineering schools as others have stated.
Columbia as the “2” school in 3+2 programs does not claim to “meet need” like it does for frosh and other transfers. And admission to Columbia is not a safety in this case, requiring a 3.5 overall college GPA and 3.3 technical with no grade lower than B.
@rockclimber14 minor in business with engineering is a very common minor. My son’s looking to do the same thing. But he’s just a sophomore… Will see if things change as he finds out about different options
Three tech schools that fly under the radar: U of AL-Huntsville (mentioned by an earlier poster), FL Institute of Technology, and Missouri S&T.
UAH and FL Tech are well-regarded for engineering in general and aerospace engineering in particular. Missouri S&T used to be known as U of Missouri-Rolla. I would consider all three solid safeties for a student who has strong stats. Scholarship money should also be available.
Colorado School of Mines: Not really a safety, as I think most STEM hopefuls know how good the school is. Still, it would probably be a safety for a very solid student.
Yes safety engineering schools exist! Schools in your area that are smaller are always safeties (in Ohio that would be like U of Akron, etc.) But there are plenty of larger school songs that have a little less competitive but excellent programs such as OSU and Cincinnati. I actually have a friend that goes to Ucinci for computer engineering and she absolutely loves it and is receiving a great education! And Ucinci is a safety school. So my advice would be to look at some of the smaller universities near you or some non-competitive engineering program large schools. Those would be your safeties.
The OP is in Virginia. GMU, VCU, or ODU could be good to add to the list.
My daughter just graduated from a Tech school in engineering. While something like 75% of students are in STEM, the school does offer business and psychology as very popular programs.
Daughter did not have a minor and it would have been very difficult to have a minor in something other than chemistry or physics or math. There just aren’t enough electives in the engineering programs to fit in a minor in an entirely different subject without staying in school for extra semesters or doing summer. Most kids are more interested in using extra time for internships or co-ops than in just taking more classroom work.
Her boyfriend was a construction management major and did take business classes. He also got an MBA after undergrad so clearly didn’t have enough business classes for his needs.
A small tech school isn’t the right choice if you want a lot of humanities classes or music theory as a minor, but most have enough non-STEM classes to kept college interesting. If you really want a business degree and an engineering degree, then pick one of the bigger schools like VT or GT and plan on staying a couple of extra semesters.
Illinois Institute of Technology (IIT) would fall along the lines of a safety tech school.
Alabama has very good engineering with amazing facilities. It’s also a safety for you. Apply before December and get one of their large assured merit for stats. Actually, the app is super fast and easy so apply now and have acceptance and merit offer within a couple of weeks.
Clarkson
Strongly recommend Iowa State University. Impressive Engineering department with great placement. Good OOS merit as well. One of the most beautiful campuses in the country. Worth a look.
So agree with Iowa State University!