Do schools retaliate a broken ED?

<p>Hey, maybe School X rescinded her admission because of bad grades or something. As others have said, there is nothing you can do about it...although if your daughter is rejected, I suppose it may be helpful in the long run to blame it on the other student.</p>

<p>From what I understood, schools are usually OK if students back out from their ED schools admissions right after receiving Fin. Aid packages. But they get really mad when students back out later, when they start getting signals from their RD schools.
And at this later point GCs have ways to influence the situation. In some schools ALL transcripts and mid-year reports are sent by GCs. They know all ED/RD deadlines and all requirements. And they keep record of all ED apps. Mid-year reports go to either the ED school (if accepted) or to RD schools (if rejected or defered). Even if students "forget" to withdraw their RD apps, they remain incomplete. In other schools students are 100% on their own with their apps. and GCs do not care.</p>

<p>COHFE members (COFHE</a> : Consortium On Financing Higher Education) will reportedly blackball (with other COHFE members) an applicant who backs out of ED for other than financial reasons.</p>

<p>I don't think they will retaliate.It is just illogical to punish one for another's wrongdoing.</p>

<p>i think that backing out early in the game makes it less of a big deal. all letters have not been sent and family circumstances can change that make this necessary. if the school was notified and we ok with this decision then all if fine. my understanding is that if you cannot find the money to go then backing out is ok. now if you wait until june to do this, that is bad.</p>

<p>i know from first hand experience that the way the college admissions office feels about your school, ie...good counselors, good students at the school,...can influence decisions. one of my kids go reconsidered for a program simply because of the relationship between the college and hs counselors. i think it is because if the college feels that they get the truth and the full story from the hs counselor, then they can rely on the documents that are sent. but if the hs counselor has messed up before, it makes them less trustworthy. a hs counselor at our school failed to sent out necessary info to colleges on time and cause kids to miss deadlines and now he is gone. your school is not effective at placing kids in to good colleges if the hs counselor is inept or even preceived as so.</p>

<p>"From what I understood, schools are usually OK if students back out from their ED schools admissions right after receiving Fin. Aid packages. "</p>

<p>That's only if the financial aid packages really don't meet the student's need from the college's standpoint.</p>

<p>It's not considered OK to back out of a need based financial aid package that by the college's standpoint meets 100% of your need if instead the student wishes to accept a merit-based full ride. That's why if money is a consideration at all, students shouldn't apply ED.</p>

<p>Meanwhile, many ED colleges do retaliate against high schools if students back out of ED for a reason the college doesn't accept. After all, how else can the ED college put more pressure on GCs, students etc. to make students live by ED commitments. As a result of colleges being so tough on ED, some high schools have put various things into place to add more pressure on students to take ED commitments seriously.</p>

<p>Not sure it is exactly retataliation, but according to D's GCs, colleges will take a far more negative view of a school where a student backed out of an ED commitment. Colleges rely on ED acceptances to be enrolled students and feel betrayed when they back out to go to a rival school (as they should).</p>

<p>And they do absolutely blame the GCs, mainly for allowing an accepted ED student to send out other school transcripts, recommendations, etc. This is probably why there is carry over to future applicants from that school moreso than outright retaliation. The college feels they can't trust the GC.</p>

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It's not considered OK to back out of a need based financial aid package that by the college's standpoint meets 100% of your need if instead the student wishes to accept a merit-based full ride. That's why if money is a consideration at all, students shouldn't apply ED.

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<p>This is not always the case. Some schools encourage needy kids to apply ED, and apply no punishment whatsoever if the offered financial aid is not enough (e.g., the EFC of self-employed families is notoriously difficult to get right).</p>

<p>Keep in mind that at many schools, particularly public ones, a large percentage of the college-bound population goes to in-state public schools, most of which don't have ED programs. At my high school, considered one of the best in the state, most kids still go to an area public school. My guidance counselor hadn't even heard of many of the top-tier LACs that I applied to, so it was entirely on me to know deadlines and how admissions policies work. I simply would go in for five minutes, give her the forms and a list of addresses, and she would do what I asked of her, which was send out my grades in a timely manner. IMO, thats how it should be. It isn't the GC's fault that the kid didn't understand what ED meant, especially if the GC is working with a ton of kids at once. Others in the school shouldn't be punished.</p>

<p>I hope I didn't confuse the issue. When I wrote:</p>

<p>Some schools encourage needy kids...</p>

<p>I really meant:</p>

<p>Some colleges encourage needy kids...</p>

<p>I agree with those who say that the college will take out their displeasure on future applicants--although it depends on why the student backed out of the commitment.</p>

<p>hey this is brownsugar106's D
just to clarify a bit, when the girl's mom called and talked to the school, apparently it was "all worked out"
she says it was a long story and didn't tell me the situation or anything but she did say that "it's all good"</p>

<p>CROSSING MY FINGERS! :D</p>

<p>well i was rejected.
really hoping it wasn't because of her :D</p>

<p>Given that the odds of admission to any MT program are so low, I don't think it was because of her.</p>

<p>So sorry you didn't get the news you were hoping for.</p>

<p>Is MT the same as M&T?</p>

<p>I don't know what M&T is; in the context of this post, I believe that "MT" means Musical Theater.</p>