Do these grades knock me out of top 10 schools?

<p>Hey I have an upward grade trend...w/ a crappy freshman year, decent soph yr, & pretty good jr yr. am i screwed for top 10 schools?</p>

<p>My SAT should be between 2180-2280...so not so bad there. ec's are good but we're not really doing chances here...just want to see if these grades are acceptable</p>

<p>btw, for my A's in chinese, i'm caucasian, so it wasn't an "easy A" if that matters.</p>

<p>These are for my academic classes (order is science, history, english, math, chinese).:</p>

<p>9th/10th/11th grades: 3.58 UW / 3.92 W
10th/11th grades: 3.72 UW / 4.25 W</p>

<p>9th (all honors):
1st semester: B+ / B / B+ / B- / A
2nd semester: B / B / A / C / A
UW: 3.33
W: 3.33</p>

<p>10th (all honors + ap euro)
1st semester: B / A- / A- / B / A
2nd semester: A- / A- / B+ / B+ / A
UW: 3.6
W: 4.0</p>

<p>11th (ap us + ap comp + ap calc ab + phys...done w/ foreign language took all school offers)
1st semester: A- / A / A / B
2nd semester: A / A / A / A-
UW: 3.88
W: 4.63</p>

<p>Sorry felt it would be important to include my class rank:
9th-11th: 85/733 (top ~11%)
10th-11th: 35/733 (top 5%...barely)</p>

<p>Unless your school is VERY competitive, i.e. top prep or magnet, you have a lot of Bs for a top 10. Great ECs or being an athlete would be a big boost.</p>

<p>What abt top 25s?</p>

<p>And having the straight A's @ the end doesnt help that much? What if I had straight A's 1st semester sr yr too?</p>

<p>Top 25 should work. I dunno about Ivies though...unless you're amazing in something really unique, you really need tip top grades, which you unfortunately dont have...dont get me wrong, you're record looks really nice, but against other ivy applicants, your grades dont quite stack up...that C stands out, and you still had some Bs even after freshman year...</p>

<p>top 25 should be fine though. You've got good shots.</p>

<p>stambliark41 ..u must realize freshman actually has little or no effect on your chances. YOu did actually show great improvement in grades so thats a plus. Top 10?.maybe assuming ur SAT and essay is good. Anyways, im sure you will go to a fine university because of that upward trend. Be sure to tell them what happened and how you turned the tables. relax, my first semester freshman was so bad, ....it was bad ...really bad.</p>

<p>wait a sec..^ lolok or something... wait...i thought Ivies like Princeton or California's IVy Stanford did not look at freshman. WEll, but his upward trend does stick out man. That C is just one grade. i never knew a first semester frosh grade of One C was like a killer grade.</p>

<p>You have a shot at top 10 schools. Some, like Stanford and Princeton do not even look at 9th grade. If you can break the 2200, you have a cnahce at some top 10 schools. As for top 25 schools, you also have a chance at quite a few of them. Do not let your Freshman year get you down. Many universities do not ever consider Freshman grades.</p>

<p>Alexandre, it is nice to receive a reassuring post from you (as you seem to be the authority). Thanks for the support! (thank you to the rest of you as well).</p>

<p>I don't know about being an "authority", but I do know that often, people on this forum lose sight of the big picture and focus too much on the details. One does not have to be perfect to get into a top university. Class selection and difficulty (you took many honors and AP classes) ECs, recommendations, essays, SATs (if you can crak the 2200, you are in good shape), demographics and luck all play a big role in admissions. What do you want to major in?</p>

<p>I agree with Alexandre. Top 5% speaks for itself.</p>

<p>Major: Economics (BA later)</p>

<p>I am a Cali resident, but here is my potential list (I will not apply to all of these but these are the ones I'm looking at). Hopefully this does not sound boa****l given my GPA, but this is what I have been told on here.</p>

<p>Reach:
University of Pennsylvania – Wharton (def. 1st choice!)
Princeton University
Stanford University
Duke University</p>

<p>Slight-Moderate Reach:
Cornell University
NYU – Stern
Pomona College
Northwestern University
University of Chicago</p>

<p>Match:
University of California-Berkeley
University of California-Los Angeles
Carnegie Mellon University
University of Michigan-Ann Arbor
USC</p>

<p>Safe Match:
University of Wisconsin – Madison
University of California – San Diego</p>

<p>Safety:
Other UC's</p>

<p>I meant to say MBA later...that was a dumb comment. =)</p>

<p>Great list of schools. I would definitely add Claremont McKenna as a match. They have an awesome Economics department. Brown also has a strong Economics department. </p>

<p>Have fun narrowing your list from 18 to 10! LOL</p>

<p>Seriously, what kind of setting do you want? Be specific.</p>

<p>they may not knock out the top ten, but they sure knock me out!! asl?</p>

<p>ahhhhh I wrote this huge post & an error cleared it!</p>

<p>1st thing...sat monger, what does ASL mean?</p>

<p>and then (for Alexandre & whoever else can help), this is what I'm looking for in a college:</p>

<p>-1st thing: Wharton is easily my 1st choice, and although my chances are slim, that is where my early app will go. =)
-Prefer a city or at least near a city
-Small classes but not necessarily a small school.
-Good grad school (business) placement.
-Great economics program.
-Interesting people w/ lots of ideas (I guess this is prob everywhere)...I suppose I mean creative, interactive people...not just super-studiers =/</p>

<p>Money is not an issue, but the lower price is def a plus (UCs are much cheaper -- I am in state... merit aid from anywhere would also make a school more attractive)</p>

<p>My biggest question is: If I get rejected from the business/economic powerhouses (ie Wharton, Princeton, Stanford), is it worth spending 2x the the money to attend semi-top schools (Cornell, Northwestern, etc) over UC Berkeley or UCLA, given the quality of UCLA/Cal's economics programs?</p>

<p>Sorry if I offended anyone by calling Cornell Northwestern "semi-top" schools...they very well could reject me, it was just by comparison.</p>

<p>THANKS!</p>

<p>Depends what you want to do. If say you want to work in investment banking, venture capital or management consulting, it would be worth the extra money if you went to NYU's Stern which you can very probably get into. Haas is great, but you won't know if you're in until you're a junior. If you're pretty sure you want a career in CA, than UCLA bizecon is a fine choice too.</p>

<p>If you are going to major in Economics, only 3 programs are worth paying more than Cal. They are Harvard, MIT and Princeton. If you are interested in Business, only one program is worth paying more than Cal and that's Wharton. </p>

<p>If you want to minimize risk and work on Wall Street, I agree with Zagat, got for Wharton, Stern and as of next year, Michigan. Ross will now be accepting applicants directly out of high school.</p>

<p>you are fine.. Bs dont hurt that much.. (considering ur strong unweighted GPA and extremely high weighteD)
Try to get ur SATs and ECs up..
and go for some awards..</p>

<p>and ull get-in in at least 2 of the top 10s</p>

<p>Alexandre, a couple questions:
-About economics -- Stanford not worth the extra money (compared to Berkeley?)
-Would you pay extra to go to Haas next yr compared to Berkeley? How competitive is Haas going to be for incoming freshman?</p>

<p>thanks for the assurance variance.</p>

<p>I just grew really concerned when I looked @ my transcript & realized my unweighted was even lower than i thought.</p>

<p>THANKS!</p>

<p>I forgot Stanford...Stanford is also worth going to over Cal. But in all cases, I am assuming that the cost differential will not be great. IF you have to play full price to attend H,P,S and M and get Cal at the discounted rate, all betts are off...unless you are from a wealthy family, in which case, knock yourself out! LOL</p>