<p>Holy crap, are you a freaking moron or something? <em>bands head against table</em> You completely missed my point. I'm tired of explaining **** to an idiot.</p>
<p>wow...thats embarrassing.</p>
<p>What's embarrassing is you failing to comprehend what I explained TWICE in plain English.</p>
<p>Of course, it hurts your chances IMMENSELY if you're Asian. It's so evident. I've seen complete idiots get into ivy leagues who had WAY less than average SAT scores and mediocre GPA's (e.g. 610 in math and 3.9 WEIGHTED GPA's). Asians who have MUCH better numbers + great EC's still don't get in a lot of the time. Whites too. </p>
<p>I don't see how affirmative action is helping anything... it's seems to be creating more animosity. And I don't see how it's helping URM's THAT much... but then again, that's just me. </p>
<p>Also, people at my PRIVATE school who are URM's get into Ivy Leagues all the time [and they pay full tuition at my school... as in they're nowhere near disadvantaged]. Whites and asians? Not so much.</p>
<p>Are Asian-Americans chances hurt (in comparison to white people) at many schools? Yes. Is it because of Affirmative Action? No.</p>
<p>The standard affirmative action policy at every school in the country would be to give an advantage to various people of color (such as African-Americans, Latinos, Native Americans) and give that advantage to no one else. No one is put at a disadvantage</p>
<p>The chances of Asian-Americans are hurt because there are too many college admissions officers who look at an application and then judge it differently because they'll see an application for an Asian student and subconsiouly they will roll their eyes and think "oh no, not another one.</p>
<p>Its not anything to do with affirmative action, just racism.</p>
<p>yeah, i second what just_browsing is saying.</p>
<p>would being biracial (african american/asian) negatively or positively affect my chances of being admitted into a good school?</p>
<p>At 98 percent of colleges, no. At the top colleges like the Ivy League, perhaps, but not in the way that you expect.</p>
<p>Before AA, everyone has 0, after, non-URMs have 0 while URMs have +1. Now, 1>0, so URMs have an advantage, but that means that non-URMs have a disadvantage. It's like a see-saw, raise one side and the other side automatically does down by default.</p>
<p>@ southern charm: Positively, but don't count on it as a crutch, work just as hard as if it affected you negatively.</p>
<p>I personally thought I'd be screwed for college this year especially in the case of AA; I'm an Asian-American girl from Suburbia, New York who isn't valedictorian of her class (I'm not even close) and I was nowhere near a perfect SAT. I got into Brown ED, and I don't think I was disadvantaged at all. I just think it depends on the school and what type of person you are and then they admit / decline accordingly.</p>
<p>I'm not saying that if you were a shoo-in for X college, AA will prevent you from getting in, but it does put Asians at a disadvantage, not an enormous one, but a disadvantage nonetheless. Only if you are borderline would AA have a palatable effect (and obviously only with the colleges that practice it.)</p>
<p>^^^ Yeah, it depends on where you apply.</p>
<p>I dont have any REAL political views on this, well I dont have many political views in general but here's my 2 cents:</p>
<p>1) At all top colleges, most of which practice AA, there has to be a top 50% and a lower 50%</p>
<p>2) When prestigious firms (i.e. Goldman Sachs) hire individuals, they will not, regardless of how your prestigious univerisity is, hire a white/asian kid outside the top 50-70%. However, any Black/Hispanic graduating with any decency from these top collges WILL get a spot extremely quickly</p>
<p>3) This is where AA comes in, if you fill in the class by admittedly lower qualified blacks and Hispanics (20-25% of the class), virtually all of them get jobs and the vast majority of Asians and Whites will get jobs as well.</p>
<p>4) However, if AA were to be abolished, these universities would be for a majority White/Asian and now a good 30% of the class will not be hired by these prestigious firms/get into grad school. In addition, the college body will be primarily filled with 3.8+, 2200+ SAT scorers who have never been in the bottom 90% of ANYTHING, much less bottom 30%. That is bound to create stress and could even increase sad things that could range from drug usage to suicide. However, since a good portion of URMS matriculating know they are not at the top everything (a good majority have 600s in more than one section of the SAT and some with sub 10% rank) they "know how to deal" better with dissapointment and failure than the aforemention kids.</p>
<p>5) Now, you have to wonder, where are those that are not even admitted due to AA are matriculate to. Most matriculate to other Ivies/ top schools if they diversify which schools they apply to. If not, they end up at their top state publics and will still get these money making jobs and or get into a top grad school</p>
<p>6) These assumptions were based on Blacks and Hispanics get prefential treatment in the admissions process, and are thus weaker students at the college. Furthermore, most of them end up being in the bottom 50-70% of the class.</p>
<p>7) In conclusion, AA is quite beneficial on most levels. It helps the college maintain the air of diversity, have many kids go on to top graduate career paths/ get good jobs, and helps it have a content "lower 30-50%" ranking class. It helps the AA admits easily because of their admission and pretty much guaranteed admission into top graduate career paths. It helps the whites and asian admits because a majority of them will also be able to pursue theses things listed above. It also could save the "borderline applicants" from matriculating to these top collges and wasting money not being able to obtain a lucrative post-undergrad experience. In short, AA hurts your chances of being admitted to undergraduate school if you're Asian however it helps your chances in general in getting secure career placement. </p>
<p>8) Most importantly, like it or not, it's not gonna change at any private schools. One is wasting his/her time complaning about it; there are way more racist institutions in the U.S. (such as Golf/Country clubs that are only open to white male protestants) yet no one has ever sued those groups.</p>
<p>9) Thanks for listening to my long post. :)</p>