<p>^ why would this thread make you happy? UCLA transfers are probably 1000x more subpar then Berkeley transfers by this threads logic. </p>
<p>I AM not saying anyone is subpar though.</p>
<p>@Zorro, he’s saying he’s glad he chose a school that doesn’t seem to have so many snobby people.</p>
<p>@HumorUS- Of course everyone SEEMS to be below your level of intelligence. Smart people usually don’t really act different from normal people. They also can be pretty childish and crass, just like any other person of the same age. When you consistently get the highest score on all your finals, then you may assume you are superior.</p>
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<p>humor, i believe one of the greatest benefits of going to Cal is the misconception that everyone is intelligent here. it is incorrect but very comforting. </p>
<p>Everyday, we go through the same mental masturbation…our professors,GSIs, peers, parents, high school students, etc telling us how we are smarter than other undergraduates around the word, and we eat it up. They could not be more incorrect, we are as average as the kids who go to UCLA, UCSD, UCD…I’ll draw the line there however. </p>
<p>Don’t regret going to UCLA b/c you don’t get any intellectual stimulation while talking to your peers…it’s the same story here.</p>
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<p>For the record, nor am I. To reiterate, I have no problem whatsoever with transfer students coming to Berkeley, and indeed, I often times think that Berkeley would be better if the entire undergraduate program consisted of only transfer students. </p>
<p>All I am asking is that the process be fair. Either all students should be forced to take weeders, or at least the weeder exams. Or they should all not be forced to take weeders. What is inequitable is to have some students forced to take weeders, but not others. </p>
<p>Nor do I think that UCLA is any better in this regard, the only difference perhaps being that UCLA weeders might be less harsh than Berkeley’s, which means that skipping weeders is a less meaningful advantage. {Note, I don’t know if this is true, I am simply saying that it is possible.} Nevertheless, UCLA transfer students are surely allowed to skip weeders that UCLA freshman-admits cannot.</p>
<p>Neither is going to happen sakky. I’m all about fairness, but in terms of logistics it won’t work. </p>
<p>UCLA is just as competitive as Berkeley, imo. </p>
<p>Unless you are pushing the papers or setting something in motion, this is just a conversation of hypotheticals and really isn’t going anywhere. It doesn’t help current students nor incoming students. Therefore, this discussion is a waste of time.</p>
<p>I don’t think HumorUS’s post was meant to be serious, or at least, I hope not.</p>
<p>@123456789bc Not to be snobby, but I think most people at Cal are VERY intelligent, and much sharper then those from alot of other UCS. Of course I’m bias and I admit that. People just complain more then they study imo, especially on this forum. You just sound really bitter about this place lol. follow your dreams.</p>
<p>i think the majority of transfer students care more than some of the non-transfers. they’re pretty intelligent. although, i met this one girl who was a transfer and she was totally out of it. she wouldn’t listen to anything or pay attention but most of them are pretty smart. (btw don’t comment on what i said from what else u’ve been reading about me) : ] thanx.</p>
<p>@ zorro - lol, I forgot I wrote that! I love cal and I’ll be a bear for life. I was just a bit peeved that I finished studying at 12:00 and didn’t have dinner (and watch my stories) until then because of a night section, so i guess I was venting <shrug></shrug></p>
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<p>Certainly I agree that nothing is likely to happen. </p>
<p>On the other hand, if we never talk about it, then certainly nothing will happen. At least by discussing the topic, we have the chance for reform, however small. To paraphrase Wayne Gretzky, while you may miss many shots that you take, you will miss all of the shots that you never take.</p>
<p>I had to google the word “cryptofacsiofascistic” and found that the only other hit for it was for this post in a blog “The Daily Raider.” Is that you who wrote that?</p>
<p>sneaky sneaky…good catch liquidus!</p>
<p>humor: I agree you belong more at Berkeley. Based on threads like this, Berkeley seems full of pretentious snobs. Likewise, you posted some thread complaining about people being unfriendly at UCLA. To me you’re just acting like a whiny little kid. You really can’t enjoy yourself at UCLA? You have gorgeous weather, a pretty campus, cool well rounded smart students, an awesome area of LA, etc. etc. etc. etc. etc.? You probably would have just killed yourself at UCR, where I transferred from. The opportunities here seem completely endless after having seen what an average college looks like.</p>
<p>I’m happy to be at UCLA because the students here are just as smart as those at Berkeley, only they don’t show off the same way and belittle others at their school. This thread is a stain on Berkeley’s reputation.</p>
<p>Seriously, when I made my decision between the two schools, this thread (and vibe I was getting) was one of the things that pushed me away from Berkeley.</p>
<p>You shouldn’t think that the people on this board are in any way representative of the average student at Berkeley.</p>
<p>Can somebody please cite good evidence (hs gpa doesn’t count, or admissibility) that UCLA/Berkeley/SD’s students are equally or unequally smart? People keep asserting one way or another and I wonder if they actually went to multiple classes in each school to research this or they’re just assuming it’s true.</p>
<p>Also, I don’t think anybody cares about this thread, so I don’t know why you’re acting so indignant, arcade. Also, I don’t really care if people think badly of Berkeley. It’s overrated. Though I am glad to be here.</p>
<p>I really don’t care even a bit about transfers.</p>
<p>But everyone knows…</p>
<p>Berkeley students, ucla,ucsd…>transfer kids</p>
<p>It’s a fact. People who transfer into Cal should get half a diploma.</p>
<p>I am almost 100% sure that 99 kids out of 100 kids that trasnfer into Cal in their junior year from Community college are far worse than kids who went to UCLA, UCSD as their freshman year. I’ve seen so many intelligent students at UCSD. However, transfers here are way too… what’s the right word? You would know what I am talking about b/c they are in your classes. I don’t really need to explain. UCLA, UCSD…I would even say UCI freshman>Transfers</p>
<p>^what’s up with the hostility? It’s not like transfers don’t go to UCLA or UCSD.
Have you ever thought that maybe there are people out there who, unlike you, couldn’t afford a four-year education straight out of high school EVEN IF they’d been admitted to Berkeley (or any other 4-year for that matter) in the first place? Or…have you thought about the possibility that some people need to work and study at the same time and CC is the only option for them? Or maybe that people simply screwed up in high school and wanted a second chance?</p>
<p>It’s not a FACT if you can’t prove (with authentic data) that transfers cannot succeed in Cal compared to students who have come here right after high school.</p>
<p>the number of people that can’t afford it is pretty low, considering that there’s financial aid and whatnot. It would just be the people with rich parents who don’t want them in college.</p>