One quote I read was that this fight occurred during 2019, while the Sussexes were still residing in Nottingham Cottage, before they moved to Frogmore, and before Archie was born. Apparently, after the fight, Harry called his therapist - yet it’s been stated Meghan, struggling with her own mental health, didn’t have access to therapeutic care?
QUOTE: Harry claims he first rang his therapist, before later telling his wife who ‘wasn’t that surprised, and wasn’t all that angry’.
Too much family issues coming out public- it will def destroy their family relationship, don’t know what will ever heal it or if it could ever be healed. Not sure if it’s worth sharing in public esp if he wants to ever mend the relationship. As the saying behind every great man is a great(er) woman; in this case it doesn’t seem to be that way sadly.
Heard he got $20 million for the book. Guess it depends on how much one values $20M.
The book will debut on Jan. 10, 2023, and while it was previously reported that his publishers paid him [$20 million]
It will be interesting to see how far he goes with the racism accusations in the book. I’m guessing he still isn’t naming the person(s) because that would have been leaked. H&M not naming anyone to date, tells me that it’s someone very high up in the institution.
Have they ever detailed the conversations that they are calling racist? I’ve only seen vague references to “conversations about the baby’s skin color”. I don’t necessarily think that wondering what a baby will look like (or which parent the baby will resemble) is racist, but certainly making comments about hoping a baby’s skin doesn’t look too dark, would be.
I do not know how the monarchy works beyond reading about the history. However, I think K and W have followed Queen E example knowing that one day they will be the K and Q. I do not think it has anything to do with whether they love each other but more to do about protocol and how the monarchy is expected to appear in public.
There are lots and lots of rules and it appears Harry did not encourage Meghan to learn the rules… I guess because he wanted out?
I read the piece about William attacking Harry on CNN. My issue is that if he is going to recount this story, tell what he himself said to provoke such an attack. What did he do. If it’s too lopsided, he loses credibility. I do have to say I’m losing some respect for William.
Why would he call Meghan names? Give us a reason, Harry…at least why do you think William would say those things?
I’ve been thinking about this. Isn’t mental health one of Harry’s causes? If so, then how/why was M denied mental health care? How could he manage to get help for himself and not M?
I also don’t understand why she didn’t approach her OB, especially since she supposedly had an established relationship with him/her.
Between siblings - this can happen. Happens in most typical families - siblings argue and may call their significant others names if they are perceiving them to be damaging or causing issues- I think this was after the bullying allege incident which would make any person upset especially if they feel that their sibling is being taken advantage of or making a mistake by the person they choose. But both are hot headed and I doubt Harry just was an innocent victim here, he doesn’t seem like it and it’s clear he has yelled and bullied his staff in the past. His past gf shared the story of Harry getting angry at an elderly
Man who asked for a picture with him for his sick or dying wife which the ex gf gladly said yes but she recounted how angry and and rude Harry was toward that elderly man - reflects his true personality.
Struggling with mental health is often associated with embarrassment, doubt, feeling less than. So many people who battle this often don’t seek help and put up a front for those around them
Well, maybe. Or it was a bad moment. There are moments in my life, whether at work, as a parent, as a spouse, as a child or family member, of which I am not proud. And in many cases, I learned from them. Not me as my best self or even my normal self.
I think this is what’s at the heart of everyone’s complaints about constantly being in the public eye.
Very true - I wish people understood that. I have a close friend who is a registered nurse and was struggling with severe depression this past year. She had lots of resources but was unable to ask for help until it was almost literally too late. She’s one of those amazing women who seem to have their act together - good marriage, beautiful house, healthy kids, etc. When her husband finally realized what rough shape she was in, he took her to the ER and she was hospitalized for several weeks. The husband is a great guy, but my friend just hid her feelings. I do not fault him (or her!) AT ALL. It’s an illness. Telling someone to help herself is like telling someone with a broken leg to run a marathon.
She was fortunate to get excellent treatment and is doing well now.
I thought Meghan said in the Netflix documentary that she did seek help. ?
She did say she asked for it, but it was denied basically. I agree that if Harry had access to a therapist and Meghan had mentioned it all to him, then he should have taken her to his. Maybe he did. Maybe she’s just telling us the response from the palace.
The issue I have is the questions I’d like asked don’t seem to be there. Hopefully Anderson will ask some tougher one. “Harry, did Meghan tell you? Did you get her to a therapist?”
This is exactly what I was going to say.
Those who’ve never dealt with severe depression, in themselves or others, may not realize this. With depression, it’s not just about feeling sad, hopeless, etc. The rest of your brain is not working properly, including logical thinking. What seems simple and obvious to a functioning person doesn’t occur to, or appears overwhelming, to a seriouly depressed person. Their brain is literally broken.
I don’t know anything about Meghan’s battle with depression and attempts or not to seek help, other than what’s been posted here, and I have no opinion of her either positive or negative. But I’m not surprised if in fact she did not ask for help. She may not have recognized that she should, or know how to do it or who to ask. All she knew was that she felt terrible.
According to her Oprah interview, Meghan was aware of her fragile mental state and, during her pregnancy, she did ask ‘the institution’ for help, and was refused…
“I went to the institution and said that I needed to go somewhere to get help, said that I’ve never felt this way before and I need to go somewhere, and they said I couldn’t, that it wouldn’t be good for the institution.”
In the same Oprah interview, Harry said:
"I was ashamed that it got this bad. I was ashamed to go to my family. Because to be honest with you, like a lot of other people my age could probably relate to, I know that I’m not gonna get from my family what I need.”
It just seems a little contradictory that Harry had his own therapist that he called upon after a fight with his brother, yet knowing his wife was struggling, he couldn’t or didn’t afford her the same care.
I’m not disputing she was in a bad place, just noting he contradiction of Harry having a therapist on call.
“Thereapist on call”? I’m pretty sure that an individual’s therapist is not “on call” to treat the patient’s spouse. Also the timeline of all these events is unclear to me. It don’t have the impression that on one day Harry doesn’t know where to turn for help for Meghan and the next day he’s ringing up his therapist because of the fight with William. These events played out over a couple of years, right? Also, my experience has been that the itensity and frequency of therapy sessions rises and falls and then rises and falls again as life events unfold. So we don’t know what was going on with Harry’s own therapy sessions at various points in time or even if he had the same therapist at all these points. It’s also common to feel a need to change therapists at some point. What we do know is that Harry’s therapist’s job is to help Harry, not Meghan.
So how does medical care for the royals work? Does “the institution” act as a gatekeeper for any and all things medical?
I think the help M was referring to was to go “somewhere” like check into a hospital to treat depression… she was asking for more help than a once a week therapy session. It would be eventually leaked to the press her reason for admittance - and the institution did not support this. That’s how I interpret her comment.
I would like Harry to address the relationship with William before Meghan. Why did he call her names? Is there some truth to that? We will never know….the firm won’t ever talk. It just seems really odd that William would get so ugly and violent. Maybe the book will shed better light.
I do think she fibs, and I’m not convinced she was suicidal. That is due to her other white lies.