Does everyone have their popcorn ready for Harry & Meghan?

No, you won’t hate him. The feelings you have now (sympathy), will only get stronger. I believe his story. But I see his naïveté when it came to Meghan. Not that she’s not good for him…but I think she really let him on in believing she was really not aware of the royal family.

You put it perfectly, in that he really was born into the wrong type of family and when Diana died, he lost what he needed for his soul.

If you read the book, you’ll see that is not the case.

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This BBC article on why Americans seem more pro-Harry than than the Brits is quite on target,IMHO.

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Your belief is wrong

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It still exists because it entertains? It wouldn’t be entertaining if it didn’t generate publicity (good or bad) from time to time.

You realize that Vatican City is a monarchy, and that some wonder what that still exists?!?

I’m not sure why Americans, who have zero skin in this game, care if the British monarchy exists. Or why they think the UK is the only one with a monarchy.

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There is no such thing as HIS truth—however, there is his OPINION, his VERSION, of the truth.

There is only ONE truth, which is THE truth!

And we will probably never know what the real truth is.

thank you for tolerating this old-man-rant (winking emoji)

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That’s Harry’s point. You need your good guys and then some bad ones for drama for entertainment so Somebody needs to be fed to the press.

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I thought H&M and W&K could have been the fab four ushering in a new, more modern monarchy.

But a friend (she is English) said to me, scandal is what sells. And the King and W&K couldn’t have people more popular than them. (to me, give each person/couple their moment and as a whole, you all win.)

This person also said, don’t want attention on Andrew’s transgressions (because the queen can’t have a prince go to jail for being a pedophile)? Feed the press a negative story about M. Don’t want negative attention on some other royal? Feed the press a negative story about M.

Friend also claims W has had a long term affair - something I have never heard.

Feels a little conspiracy theory to me, but who knows?

It’s been in the tabloids

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Here is an article about some of the inconsistencies in the book.

Talk about recollections may vary! Harry and Meghan’s ‘truth’ doesn’t always match everyone else’s | Daily Mail Online

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I am not a royal watcher, only when it hits mainstream media like now. I do recall seeing an article (probably the same one someone posted upthread) about how M and K were treated completely differently in the press when they did the same things. Seeing side by side was eye opening.

I guess the Firm and/or press protects those closest to the throne first…

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A bit off-topic but relevant to this discussion…maybe someone who has more knowledge about this than me would care to respond.

I don’t read the tabloids, British or otherwise. I gather the British versions are much more extreme than their American counterparts. But I have no sense what role they play in forming public opinion in England. Do a majority of people read them? Do a majority of people believe them? Who reads them? Do otherwise discerning people read and believe them? How much power do they have in shaping, or controlling, the narrative on events?

I do agree that is not the focus of his unhappiness and said the same to the poster. However, it is normal for a person to feel some jealousy when the inheritance from parents is unequal…and in this case really so unfair. Just birth order. So I give the poster that.

In the book, Harry says over and over that he is recounting his life story with memories that may not be completely accurate. Anyone nitpicking over trivial details like what someone was wearing as evidence of his mendacity seem to have a deliberate agenda imo.

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@skieurope, I’m seeing a lot of bickering online about whether or not Kate Middleton is a “Commoner.”

What is the official British definition of commoner, and was KM technically one or not?

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I’m not sure who is bickering, since she was a commoner. Now, she’s royalty. That’s the definitive answer

The UK definition of a commoner is a person who is neither royal nor holds a noble title (and the next part is important) in their own right.

So a person who hold a hereditary peerage is not a commoner. Their children, including the heir to the title, who hold a courtesy title are commoners, since they do not hold the title in their own right.

As an example, John Spencer, 8th Earl Spencer, was not a commoner. His daughter, Lady Diana Spencer, was a commoner until her marriage.

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But his Uncle Charles, Earl Spencer, said he was going to be there for Harry (and Will) as his blood family. What happened to that?

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I think the press didn’t like Meghan because not liking her sold papers. They liked her at first because it sold papers, then didn’t like her because it sold papers. Nothing personal, just business. If Andrew had started dating Koo Stark again, Meghan’s love of avocados would have been back page news.

Meghan and her friends needed to stop reading papers. I think that is how most celebrities deal with it.

Honestly, I haven’t even noticed those types of papers in years. I’m so behind on aliens and babies born with a horse tail and even what Meghan’s up to I may never catch up. Even my dentist doesn’t have magazines anymore. Thanks Covid.

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Some of us know that there is more than one monarchy, but maybe we feel the same about all royals; no one should be considered better than everyone else just because of ancestry and birth order.

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