Does everyone have their popcorn ready for Harry & Meghan?

Couldn’t reasonable people counter that it was rude and insensitive of Kate to stress out a bride over a three-year-old’s dress?

Maybe it is just a matter of tensions running high for both women, and it was simply a momentary lapse of graciousness on either or both sides, but not a defining characteristic of either one of them.

The story was told for the reason of demonstrating how the royals are in cahoots with the tabloid press, but few are interested in the big issue.

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I totally agree with you. A number of posters were asking for demonstrated examples of incidents that pretty much prove the royals are in cahoots with the tabloid press, but when those were provided, those posts were pretty much ignored. Seems like this thread is a pretty good reflection or mirror of what is going on outside of CC.

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All in all though, the interaction may fall under the umbrella of “recollections may vary.” Is the version in Spare what you’d hear from either Kate or William? I guess I’m bothered by the assumption that what Harry relates in Spare is the only “truth” rather than the only available truth.

My adult children have had their disagreements over the years and, trust me, recollections definitely varied.

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Personally, I’ve always called them Bill and Cathy Cambridge.

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Technically, they’re now Bill & Cathy Wales. :rofl:

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I stand corrected ( Still think Bill and Cathy Cambridge rolls of the tongue better) :stuck_out_tongue_closed_eyes:.
On second thought, Willy Wales works great!

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Are you reading that assumption on this thread? If so, I must have missed it.

Actually, I am with regard to interchanges between Meghan and Catherine.

People do change their names and what they like to be called. Lots of people prefer to use their full name when they are older and no longer want to be Debbie or Susie. Or Lilibet. I don’t think the press referred to the Queen by her family nickname.

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Ok, I’ll bite. Maybe it’s the scientist in me, but I at least have asked for more than “examples of incidents that pretty much prove”. I’m hoping to hear from someone besides Harry that the royal family is in cahoots with the tabloids. The closest evidence provided here is the NYT opinion piece linked above–thank you to those who gifted it–but I am deliberately refraining from commenting any more on Harry’s assertions, including that article, until I finish the book.

No one is disputing the royal family has a symbiotic relationship with the press; it’s the exact nature of that relationship that is not yet clear to me.

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And you likely never will. At least not in the short-term from an authoritative source.

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You’re not supposed to have it made clear to you. You will have to look at the big picture an draw your own conclusions. What do you want to see, a contract, a dossier? Come on. (A lot of stuff in the UK works like that, and most definitely almost anything to do with the monarchy).

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I think we’re interested and all get the big issue. But it’s just not as fun to discuss as all the other stuff Harry writes about,

Harry’s story is a reflection of what is going on in larger society. Many kids are having a hard time dealing with perceived or real injustice in their lives. Most will not write a book about it and their family… but the estrangement is real.
So where does all of this lead? Will Harry be able to move on … will the book, Netflix series, and interviews “help” him deal with his life? I am just not seeing a good endpoint.

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Fair enough. Maybe I should more accurately say I haven’t yet come to a conclusion. My standards may well be unreasonable. I’m not expecting a peer-reviewed journal article, but so far what I’ve seen/read can be interpreted different ways, and I’m not sure what to think yet. Every time I hear something on one side or the other I find myself playing devil’s advocate with the information.

I’m not as familiar with how things work in the UK, and what power the tabloid press has. That actually is the most interesting aspect to me.

Per the above article, it seems likely the couple will fade into irrelevance-I think many in the UK already ignore them, and the royal family will carry on as they always have, likely growing in popularity as William, Catherine and their cute kids move to center stage. The Sussex brand is too toxic to garner much corporate sponsorship at this point, and I am not even sure how much sway they would have for established charities. The couple has plenty of money to live on.

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The celebrity lifestyle has quite the burn rate. I don’t see what they have cashed (net of CA/US taxes) from the book/Netflix/Spotify lasting them a lifetime. They are going to need to come back to the well and need to both stay in the spotlight and have more dirt to dish to garner another payday like this first one.

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Self importance, public adoration and celebrity acceptance are as addictive as other substances.

I don’t see them ever becoming irrelevant given their money and heritage. Individuals and corporations will keeping coming to them with ideas and projects.

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Different cultures and it’s imp if you are in another person’s country to try to follow their cultural norms. Here in the states I think we feel comfortable talking about those things but I can see how it’s not acceptable in the UK or other countries maybe Asian or Middle eastern countries it would also be considered rude. It’s important to have cultural literacy if you decide to move to a different country.

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