Does it make sense to take extra SAT Subject tests?

<p>Hey fellow CCer's ... I am currently about to enter the 11th grade next year and am scheduled to take the SAT Reasoning test in January next year</p>

<p>Since I have a solid 2 years ahead of me, I was wondering whether it makes sense to take the time to study for more than 2 subject tests? Will it enhance my application if I manage to do well in more than 2 or is it just not worth it?</p>

<p>Also I am pretty set on applying to Wharton which is obviously ultra-prestigious and extremely hard to get into. In addition, the SAT subject tests I plan to take are Maths I, Maths II, Physics, Chemistry and World History</p>

<p>Any help will be much appreciated :)</p>

<p>3 would be good. I don’t think you should take both the math, just math 2</p>

<p>You can take Math2, Physics, and Chem (Math1 is unnecessary) however showing a range of subjects (foreign language, English, history) is always a good idea, especially for Tech-y students (who all tend to take the same subjects). Foreign Language scores are especially useful if you want to skip 1st or even 2nd semester FL classes in college.
Of course, many students choose to show mastery by taking AP classes/exams, but that doesn’t mean subjects are useless.
In addition, it often gives you the possibility to choose your top 3 scores and you can take 3 tests on the same day anyway.
Ideally, you’d take your SAT subject tests in May and/or June of Junior year.</p>

<p>I really wish I could take a foreign language however, my second language isn’t tested on the SAT</p>

<p>Is it possible to self-study for a language SAT though or would one need guidance from a teacher? I can definitely see the benefits of taking one</p>

<p>Only a few top schools will look at additional SAT2 scores and they better be good.</p>

<p>Well it allows you to choose which tests:scores to send :slight_smile: Since I assume it’s for top colleges, it’s always good to present your best “profile” and to have that flexibility.
However if the result is 5 in the 500s, well, no.</p>

<p>Read what billscho says. Do your target colleges even require SAT IIs? Very few do.</p>

<p>No they do not require more than two but I am sure that if one can get 750+ in 4 SAT II’s then it should give him a leg up in the application process as he would be showing competence in a range of subjects as opposed to just a couple of math/science ones</p>

<p>You don’t need both math 1 and math 2. Take math 2 if you will have completed precalculus/trigonometry or higher by the time you take the test.</p>

<p>For the other two out of physics, chemistry, and world history, consider what the schools you are applying to recommend or require. If you want to show well roundedness, you can take one of the sciences and world history for the other two.</p>

<p>If you’re sure that you have good chances of getting high scores on 3 Subject Tests, then take 3 Subject Tests. Definitely drop Math 1, it won’t help you if you take Math 2. Colleges do look at all your Subject Test scores, but your highest two are considered the most important. So it’s best if those two are related to your intended major, and the third one suggests that you are well-rounded.</p>

<p>Thanks for all your advice. I definitely won’t waste time on Maths I but planning to take Maths II, Physics and World History so that I can show some well-roundedness and hell, if I have the time then I might as well do it. Appreciate the advice guys :)</p>

<p>^ You better look at the school’s requirement. A few schools have very specific requirement even for which subjects are needed for certain program. To save you some time, check out the document linked below:</p>

<p><a href=“http://www.rtsd.org/cms/lib/PA01000218/Centricity/Domain/185/fall%202013%20schools%20that%20req%20or%20rec%20SAT%20Subject%20Tests.doc[/url]”>http://www.rtsd.org/cms/lib/PA01000218/Centricity/Domain/185/fall%202013%20schools%20that%20req%20or%20rec%20SAT%20Subject%20Tests.doc&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Beginning with Upenn, since it is the one on the top of your list and is representative of most that require subject tests: it requires two subject tests in different subjects. Thus, if you submit math 1 and math 2, that counts as only one test toward the two required. If you submit more than the two required, it considers no more than two subject tests in determining admission, usually the highest two. For certain majors, it recommends specific subject tests. For engineering, it recommends math 2 and a science. For Wharton, it recommends math 2 and another of your choice. Thus, you should take math 2 for it and one in another subject of your choice. If you score two high scores you are done for Wharton, but if you score low in that second test other than math 2, you may consider taking another because if you score high it can replace the one you scored low on.</p>

<p>The other colleges that require subject tests are similar except some actually require, not just recommend, a math and science for engineering and a math for business and for some that math requirement is for math 2. Most of the colleges that require subject tests consider the highest two for admission. Harvard and Princeton require two but will consider any sent although if you have two with high scores, the others will not have a significant impact (e.g., if you have 4 800s, that fact alone won’t mean you will be considered better than someone who submits only two tests with 800s). </p>

<p>Outside of the 20 colleges that require subject tests, you also have colleges that instead recommend subject tests (e.g., Stanford), and those that neither require nor recommend them but will give them some consideration if provided (e.g., UChicago). The recommend group of colleges usually recommend two, although Johns Hopkins and Georgetown recommend three. Like required colleges, those usually do not view two tests in the same subject, such as math 1 and math 2, as being more than one test. Also, the “recommend” colleges often recommend a math and science for engineering or a math for business, and particularly for engineering that recommendation is often for the math 2 (e.g., the UCs that recommend subject tests). Stanford, which is in the recommend group, appears to stand alone among that group as recommending math 2 for all applicants if you submit a math. </p>

<p>Those that consider, but neither require nor recommend, subject tests, will consider any sent but you should not assume submitting them is going to greatly enhance your chances for admission or that submitting more than two is going to make any difference at all.</p>

<p>There are also colleges both in the above groups and among those that do not even consider subject tests for admission that recommend a language subject test, not because it will be used to determine admission, but because it will be used after you are admitted to determine placement in language courses and thus that could be a third test to take even if you have two others with high scores.</p>

<p>Bottom line is that you need two, and in your case a math 2 and not the math 1 should be one of those, and in some cases taking a third can help to replace another lower score or may possibly be used for placement after you are admitted. Moroever, if applying to Hopkins or Georgetown you should have three. You can take all you want (College Board has no limit other than no more than three in one day) but do not do so on the assumption that submitting a lot of subject tests is going to give you some significant advantage over those that submit only the number required or recommended.</p>

<p>Hmm thanks for reply. I feel like taking 3-4 subject tests will be very safe as if one of them goes awry then at least I have a replacement and if I do well in all, well then it can’t hurt right? Haha</p>

<p>I suppose I will take Maths II, Physics and World History and I guess if I don’t do as well as I like for more than one of them then I might look at chemistry as well </p>

<p>But yeah since you can take 3 in a single sitting, I might as well do that … It will be hell but at least then I won’t be putting all my eggs in the same basket and it will give me the opportunities to apply to more colleges like those who require 3 Subject tests</p>

<p>If you are going to be applying to highly selective schools, I would take 3 tests.</p>