Does prestige of where you go to college undergrad matter that much if your goal is to get an MBA and eventually work a top finance job?

I disagree. All three are fine and respected. It will not be seen by top MBA programs any differently than other flagships. The quality of your work will be more important.

Most/many get their MBA by where they work…they go part time. If wages keep rising you’ll see it more and more bcuz no one will want to leave an already high salary.

Where you may get into an MBA program should not take school choice into consideration, especially when looking at those three.

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Do you believe that the difference between networking and prestige at IU Kelley compared to the other two isn’t all that different? I’ve read that IU is a semi-target compared to TCU and UGA being non-target, so may be significantly easier for landing a job out of college.

I think you read way too many magazines. You can network via any school. I know Penn state kids unemployed and they supposedly have the best alumni.

I’m an ASU MBA and I make more than 98% of society.

I’d bet on you…the individual. Not the school.

Kelley is fine but it’s not elite. I turned it down for ASU. MCcombs as well - for MBA. Undergrad was journalism at Syracuse. Work experience b4 was outside sales.

What do u want to study ?

I work with UGA and IU grads. TCU rep is strong.

Find the right school for you.

You are placing too much emphasis on areas that will likely be similar.

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I would like to study Finance and minor in history. I agree. I also looked into ASU and U of A. It’s really what you make of it.

You have three good options. No wrong decision. Kelley carries a little more cachet but that shouldn’t be deciding factor.

Do you have direct admit to Kelley? Is being one of 8k business undergrads agreeable? Have you visited?

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The Kelley school, I heard (I know two recent graduates) has a small (maybe ~150 kids a year) investment banking group informally run by a professor. Entry is competitive. Some subset (maybe 50 – so that is 2.5% of the annual intake of 2000 into the Kelley school) of these kids get into IB jobs upon graduation I think. You should talk to kids at Kelley before making these decisions if this is important to you.

Many schools do have competitive clubs…something for OP to check in to. But, Kelley students do not have to be in the IB club to get an IB internship and/or job.

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I think we need to separate the likely easier path to a career with a top IB/Finance, PE or consulting career from path to a top MBA program. I agree that a stellar GPA, test scores and good job experience (and references) are going to be the drivers of getting into a top MBA program vs where you go undergrad. If however the desired path is to go straight into a top IB/Finance, PE or consulting firm out of undergrad, where you go undergrad matters. It’s a function of how and where these firms recruit. I would see if the career centers of the 3 Bschools you listed would share outcomes data as to summer internships and full time offers as to both industries and employers.

It is a separate discussion about “prestige” of undergrad, debt and long term success. Different opinions and good pro’s and cons about those as well, and there is no right answer that fits everyone.

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You are right that they don’t need to be in the club to get into an IB job.

What area of finance. Everyone has you in IB. Most finance jobs are corporate finance people…they track expenses or help determine budgets, process things.

You could go to Indiana State vs Indiana U for that type job.

IB is a sliver of finance. There’s also financial advisors and other areas.

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The OP mentioned IB up top :slight_smile:

My bad.

Today IB is all over. Not just NY or Boston but Atlanta, Nashville, Dallas, Austin and more. IU may have a shade more influence. But negligible.

I don’t think most in HS know what IB is. They just hear salaries of tenured people. They don’t read about the first years who went to GS and protested being worked like dogs every day.

Funny I text my boss today about an issue. Response it can wait til Monday

Many in IB literally have no life.

I wouldn’t choose IU for IB over the others. Ivy, Michigan sure. IB also pulls from many majors. Iu might be a target fir Chicago firms but so will Terry and Neely for their respective cities.

People need to be somewhere for four years. Going to a place you wouldn’t enjoy is foolish,

Finally I’ll end with this. A guy my daughter is seeing at Collehe of Charleston is interning at GS this summer. They’re not on any ones radar. Applied online. Sue says $79k for summer. I doubt that but I know he’s going there.

I generally agree with you, although the two IU kids that I know of personally are in NYC IB. But you may be right. Separately, GS doesn’t pay 79k for the summer. Unless it is an annualized number: https://www.glassdoor.com/Salary/Goldman-Sachs-Summer-Analyst-Salaries-E2800_D_KO14,28.htm . I asked my son who is in college, and is generally more aware than me – here is what he said: I think they get paid 40 an hour + like 2 k for housing maybe. Although they recently raised all of their analyst base salaries. So maybe it went up in lockstep. The classical hedge funds I think cluster around 50 an hour.

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Meant to say $70k. Phone makes for tough typing. But I agree.

I think people are counting on the colleges. I’m simply saying the colleges are not the be all and end all. And it’s more open today.

Anyway not sure what he’ll be doing role wise. But he’s at Goldman from C of Charleston. I went to ASU Mba. We placed a McKinsey. Kids from boise state go to Harvard Law.

And there will be Harvard kids that can’t hold a job. And TCU kids who become millionaires many times over

My point is anything is possible if a kid really wants it.

I’m sure some from all three schools listed will work in i banking. But likely few in regards to their overall student bodies. And not necessarily all will come from b school.

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I am direct admit and I think I’d be fine with the large size. I liked it a lot but almost like TCU more.

Son works for an IB in NYC in the same bracket as GS as a first year analyst. His base is currently $115k. During his summer internship there he was paid pro rata to the then going rate. Assuming a 10 week summer program, that is about $22k ($2,212/wk), still a boat load of money for a summer job but nowhere close to $70k for the summer which implies over $300k in annual comp. So I think there is some misunderstanding about the summer comp. I suspect it is annual comp, and at $70k or $79k, it is going to be perhaps in Wealth Management or in an area of operations, all of which have summer internships, which pays at different rates than IB.

The kids he knew in his summer class were kids from the usual Ivy+ suspects, Stern, and Ross There were a couple of kids from Penn State and Kelley. Not saying it is impossible to get a job from a non-feeder, but it is a tough road if this is what you are shooting for. Also, agree it is not a type of job for everyone. Son’s roommate was at GS in the summer and turned down the return offer to work for a PE shop. Others in his summer internship class opted for different industries as well.

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Yes it doesn’t sound right to me. Just what my daughter said. The main thing is it’s not impossible (to get a job). I wonder if $70k is ‘annual’ run rate.

So back to @Paul45 You prefer TCU. Maybe because its smaller . So google TCU + investment banking + LinkedIn

They r there. B school and not.

Good luck.

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I think you answered your question. You like TCU more. Go there and do well.

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Actually, summer internships can and do pay more than $70K for the 8-10wk period. My son’s a Wharton undergrad and the going rate is $85K for many of the first tier shops.

Sorry, you or your kid are mistaken. $85k was the annual going rate last summer before the big increases during the late summer. Son actually worked a summer internship and is currently a first year analyst at a T3 IB. His roommate was at GS the previous summer. $70k for 8-10 weeks implies an annualized comp in excess of $300k. First year associate base comp is in the 200k+ range, but does not hit $300k. Maybe some quant hedge fund here or there may pay that, but the top tier IB firms are all pretty close and they pro rate summer pay.

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