Does Research Count During that Grey Area Between High School And College?

<p>Hi. This question comes from another thread but i don't feel that it was really clarified. My question is: If you take part in a biomedical science program/internship during the summer after your high school graduation and before your freshmen year of college, does this count for your college resume/credentials when applying for other programs. I was trying to take part in a biomedical science program at Thomas Jefferson but i wasn't sure if I could use it to my advantage in terms of applying for other programs by listing it as clinical researh that I have done.I know that I'd have the knowledge under my belt but I wanted to be able to use this experience in terms of written credentials. I appreciate any feedback that you give.</p>

<p>Yes .</p>

<p>ofcourse you could have taken a vacation or hung out with friends had you gone the bs/md way and not have to worry about stocking up 'stats' for medical school. oh well.</p>

<p>Research is not just a "stat." It's an intellectual exercise designed for the curious to help satisfy some of their understanding, as well as an exposure to an extremely important part of the medical process.</p>

<p>This is why BS/MD programs confuse me. They allow you to "get out of" research, doing well in your courses, and clinical experience -- all of which people should want to do anyway.</p>

<p>but if it's not required why put in the time to do it? After all, it's all about playing the game right?</p>

<p>Because it's good for you, because you learn neat things, and because it's related to what you eventually want to do. Goodness gracious.</p>

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After all, it's all about playing the game right?

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Obviously, we all have to play the game a little bit to be competitive applicants for medical school.</p>

<p>But it boggles my mind why some people do nothing but play the game; they treat it like a checklist and nothing more. That's why I try to avoid the pre-med game as much as possible. I do things I'm legitimately interested in and complete goals that I set for myself, regardless of whether I choose to apply to medical school or not.</p>

<p>Doctors want to do research? Hmm... and to clarify, people do things if they have an incentive to do them. A doctor will not work overtime with no pay anymore than a pre-med will want to do research to later find out that he got rejected from med school.</p>

<p>What about a pre-med that actually, GASP!, wants to do research? Also, you do realize that there are plenty of docs that do research, right?</p>

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Now, here is the important thing. Medical schools have extensive secondary essays and interviews precisely because they know that many students simply treat these activities as a checklist. They will probe you to see what you learned and how they changed you. They will want to know why you became involved in them, what you feel like you accomplished, and how these things helped you want to become a doctor. If you are treating these things as a checklist, then you will find yourself struggling at these junctions. You must really, intently find the meaning involved in what you are doing, and why it matters to you, or you run the risk of having spent your time doing things that didn't matter to you and don't help you get admitted to medical school.

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<p><a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/pre-med-topics/214373-extracurriculars.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/pre-med-topics/214373-extracurriculars.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

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A doctor will not work overtime with no pay

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... have you ever met a doctor?</p>

<p>Yes I do realize that there are plenty of docs who do research, but the way he said it made it sound like all docs want to do that, which is not true. And yeah, kudos to the pre-med that wants to do research, wants, because he knows without which he will not get into a top medical school. Even if he wants to, it's a very small percentage.</p>

<p>I'm just curious what internship program you're looking into.
I've tried to look into something in that general area, and I've found something that MAY work out... but there's a big chance it won't....</p>

<p>It is stupid to apply to a top research medical school if you do not like research.</p>

<p>I have met lots of doctors but asking them whether they would work overtime with no pay wasn't exactly on my mind.</p>

<p>thecalccobra i'm almost certain that you have no real desire to become a doctor and will drop out of premed the second it gets hard...which it will</p>

<p>its not very hard to spot people who are playing the game without actually having an interest in medicine ...not to mention..if you can't stand doing the ECs and actually enjoying them then you probably won't enjoy being a doctor...simple as that</p>

<p>^lol wow how nice of you to make a judgement like that based upon a few posts of mine. nice.</p>

<p>Hi. I'm the OP. I don't want anyone to get a false idea about me. I want to do research in the biomedical sciences because I love to do it. When I heard about the program I was thrilled to even have the opportunity to do it because this is what I like to do. I only asked the question based on another thread that I saw while on the forum. This is what made me wonder if doing this thing, that I love, could actually be used in my college resume because it was during that "grey area." I don't really put myself out there for things I don't genuinely like or enjoy. And I already know from reading other posts that there's a strong possibility that i won't get into any med school. But I'd wouldn't look back and say "damn, i did that internship or this research for nothing." It will still affect me for the better and i will still appreciate any experience that i had with the biomedical sciences.</p>

<p>I like research. I could've applied last year w/ good stats (3.9/37) and 2 1/2 years of research experience but I decided to take a year off just to do research full-time. I come in to work weekends just about every week even though no one else in my lab does and my PI has never demanded it of me. What's wrong with that?</p>

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Not a thing , norcalguy. Just remember to kick a can and jump a rope and skip some rocks along the way.</p>