<p>I was just looking at EA results thread, and it seems that Stanford was deliberately rejecting highly qualified applicants because they were Asian... Is this true? And if so, to what extent is this (discriminatory) policy practiced? And while we are at the subject, does it hate Canadians too?</p>
<p>You are an idiot.</p>
<p>Doubt that happens. The problem is that too many Asians (btw I am Chinese) look similar to the admissions committee - high test scores, high GPA/ranks, talented in math/science, plays a musical instrument, etc… Not that those achievements are any bad, but when you get too many similar applicants, they are bound to choose the top few and reject the rest - after all, it is no good for the school as a whole when half your incoming class is an Asian math/science geek.</p>
<p>I bet you will find this happening at all the top universities.</p>
<p>hmm. I suppose I should be glad that I do not fit perfectly into the asian student stereotype… the admission decisions do be very arbitrary</p>
<p>If I am not mistaken, Stanford may have the highest percentage of Asian admits of any top tier school.</p>
<p>^ Right. More Asians apply to Stanford than to any other top school. If you have an ORM population, you have to control it. Obviously, Stanford’s not going to admit hundreds of Asian clones if they have a bunch already.</p>
<p>Sidenote: vendetta was a horrible word choice. A vendetta would imply that Asians somehow did something wrong against Stanford first. Buy a dictionary.</p>
<p>"The problem is that too many Asians (btw I am Chinese) look similar to the admissions committee - high test scores, high GPA/ranks, talented in math/science, plays a musical instrument, etc… Not that those achievements are any bad, but when you get too many similar applicants, they are bound to choose the top few and reject the rest - after all, it is no good for the school as a whole when half your incoming class is an Asian math/science geek.</p>
<p>I bet you will find this happening at all the top universities."</p>
<p>This seems on the money. I do know Asians who were accepted, and perhaps it’ll help if an Asian applicant is somewhat unique and not your standard good math/science student. They’re committed to having a class talented in many <em>different</em> regards, and it’s a reality that most Asians/Indians, etc are pretty narrowly focused, even if there are exceptions. </p>
<p>While I understand why docketgold is frustrated [SO many people ask questions like these, and the answer really does seem somewhat obvious], unfortunately this isn’t fully obvious unless one has been on CC for a bit, or done something else to get educated. </p>
<p>“If you have an ORM population, you have to control it.”</p>
<p>I somehow don’t think it’s so much a question [though it is to an extent I imagine] of ORM’s or URM’s as that Asians tend to be good at very similar things. But that’s only a guess. I think they’re trying to control how many of the same kind of high-achiever makes it.</p>
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<p>No.</p>
<p>Asking whether a university has it out to get a particular group of applicants because of their race is a stupid thing to ask.</p>
<p>I’m not saying they should know what actually is going on (which you said and I agree with), but it seems pretty easy to me to rule out blatant, institutionalized racism, especially at a place like Stanford.</p>
<p>Well sure, yeah blatant racism doesn’t seem to be the issue. Perhaps I am too forgiving of how people word their questions, and I’ll admit the question here is worded in an offensive way, i.e. suggesting blatant racism.</p>
<p>I thought that just <em>maybe</em> the way it was worded was not in earnest suggesting racism, and that the OP just wanted to know why there’s this hype about Asians facing difficulties. I tend to answer the most intelligent version of the questions posed, because after all, if the question really were silly, there’s no point answering it anyway.</p>
<p>Here’s what a current college counselor (SF’s University High School) named Jon Reider said. He was an Associate Director of Admissions at Stanford.</p>
<p>[Too</a> Asian? :: Inside Higher Ed :: Higher Education’s Source for News, Views and Jobs](<a href=“http://www.insidehighered.com/layout/set/print/news/2006/10/10/asian]Too”>http://www.insidehighered.com/layout/set/print/news/2006/10/10/asian)</p>
<p>“He also said that the bias is real and cited his experience in his previous job as part of the admissions office at Stanford University. There, he said, the office did a study some years ago in which it compared Asian and white applicants with the same overall academic and leadership rankings. The study was only of unhooked kids, meaning those with no extra help for being an alumni child or an athlete. The study found that comparably qualified white applicants were significantly more likely to be admitted than their Asian counterparts.”</p>
<p>“Stanfords admissions office responded with some serious self-reflection, he said, and officials now spend some time each year studying different kinds of bias like letters that compare Asian applicants to other Asians in an attempt to weed out any unfair judgments. With bias removed, he said, theres no way that a school or college can be considered too Asian.”</p>
<p>The bias is real. Kudos to Stanford for recognizing it and trying to counteract it.</p>
<p>To the OP: If you were rejected SCEA, it is EXTREMELY clear as to why you didn’t get in.</p>
<p>To the OP again: If you get rejected RD, it will be EXTREMELY clear as to why you didn’t get in. </p>
<p>GL :D!</p>
<p>^ bahahaha that “GL” wasn’t sardonic at all ;)</p>
<p>The experience at my son’s Canadian high school suggests they do not have anything against either Canadians or Asians. Four kids applied SCEA - two Asian and two Caucasian. The two Asians and one of the Caucasians were accepted.</p>
<p>To the OP, yes, I do believe so. End of the story.</p>
<p>^SCEA rej?</p>
<p>Haha, I love the presumptive nature of everyone on the Stanford forum. No, in fact it is possible for someone who wasn’t rejected from Stanford to see major flaws in its admissions system.</p>
<p>^ it seems like ur the one being presumptive; about the admissions system</p>
<p>Ever since the Great Asian Attack on Stanford of 1998, Stanford has been actively seeking revenge. The OP is completely right in his word choice, you all need to either brush up on your grammar or brush up on your history.</p>
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<p>Oh, really? Please enlighten me.</p>
<p>I know more than enough about the admissions system, as I work closely with Stanford professors and students (and am acquainted to several people who review apps).</p>
<p>I am friends with several extremely qualified applicants who have been rejected by Stanford (Example: Female Asian, International CGMO Medalist, Multiple Time MOPper, 4x USAMO qualifier, US Physics Team Member, 4.0 GPA UW (highest weighted GPA as well at a very very competitive high school), 2350+ SAT, 4x800 SAT II’s, RSI, at least Intel Semis, and many more awards)
Result: **Rejected<a href=“and%20don’t%20try%20to%20use%20the%20cliche%20%22her%20essays%20were%20not%20up%20to%20the%20mark%22%20or%20%22she%20had%20a%20flawed%20personality%22,%20because%20frankly,%20she%20is%20a%20extremely%20humble%20and%20likable%20person%20and%20an%20amazing%20writer”>/B</a>)
^I know several Asians who had similar accomplishments who were rejected by Stanford during both SCEA and RD (while most were accepted to every other top university they applied to, is it purely coincidental? I think not)</p>
<p>However, three great friends of mine from my school were accepted SCEA this year, all three were far behind my friends who were rejected in terms of accomplishments and all three are White. I think I’m noticing a trend.</p>
<p>And take my opinions for what they are worth, they are simply observations that I’ve made over the course of the past couple of years, I’m not trying to attack Stanford in any way, as I love the institution as much as most of you do, I’m just surprised by their relatively erratic admissions system.</p>
<h2>I know more than enough about the admissions system</h2>
<p>From your posts I think it is safe to say that you, sir, do not.</p>