Does UCLA not consider people without 4.0 GPAs?

<p>Today at school, I was speaking to this girl whose mom is friends with an admissions officer at UCLA. According to her, they don't care about anyone who doesn't have a 4.0 GPA, unless you're in sports. I'm scared because I sure as hell don't have anything near a 4.0, so I was wondering if you guys could elaborate, or maybe even confirm this?</p>

<p>That is in no way, shape, or form true. However, UCLA does have a ballpark. Lower performing schools are usually told this though because of grade-inflation and performances on standardized test. Again, UCs are trying to take a more holistic approach to admissions so a less than perfect GPA will not disqualify you if you can make up for it in other areas.</p>

<p>I know that they calculate GPAs differently and they included weighted classes so it is possible to get above a 4.0. However, I doubt that it is a requirement</p>

<p>A bit of an exageration. The average UCLA Gpa is 3.7 uw and 2000 SAT. If you’re in that ballpark then you got a shot. GL</p>

<p>^^^ Actually it is 3.87 UW and 2024 SAT
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<p>Also, for future reference, I would say that people on CC are much more reliable for data then most high school students.</p>

<p>So a 3.88 UC GPA and 1590 SAT totally disqualify me from admittance??? :confused:</p>

<p>It all depends on what your major is. Some majors are more competitive than others and require a higher GPA.</p>

<p>Last year, my son, OOS, got in with a 3.7 unweighted gpa, but he did have a 2300 SAT.</p>

<p>Well, the official policy is that you must have a 3.0 UC GPA (3.4 if you are out of state) to be considered. I must say though, if your UC GPA is anywhere south of 4.0 (with all the AP/Honor scores factored in of course), your chances are much slimmer for UCLA. A high SAT score (>2000) might make up for a slightly lower GPA. UCLA gets a ridiculous amount of applicants every year, and (though it sucks), GPA and SAT score comparisons are the quickest and easiest way to weed out a bunch of these initial applications. Of course, personal statements, EC’s, all have some effect, but this is secondary to academics (I somewhat recall hearing this straight from someone at UCLA). UCLA admits to school not major so if you’re not looking to get into engineering, nursing, film, or art (so i.e, you want to get into the College of Letters and Science), major choice will not matter. The other schools mentioned are much more competitive to get into.</p>

<p>Anyway, unless you are “special” enough, i.e. have an absolutely amazing, unique EC that will knock them off their feet, are a recruit for a sports team, or have overcome an incredible, unimaginable amount of hardship that will make them weep reading your application, I would say admission is unlikely for a GPA<4.0 and SAT scores <2000. Unlikely, but not impossible. Sometimes it’s about luck, like who sees your application and what they perceive out of it. What your friend is saying is not fact, but it’s also not completely inconceivable. I’m sure they don’t just sit there, heartlessly tossing all applications from people without a 4.0 and laughing maniacally. It’s more about how many qualified applications they get and how little of those they can take in.</p>

<p>Keep in mind that many high schools calculate an A- as a 3.7. If that’s what’s keeping you so far away from a 4.0 I wouldn’t worry about it. On the other hand, if you are unable to maintain anything close to a 4.0 (even unweighted) with an A- counting as a 4.0, UCLA MIGHT be a bit too rigorous for you, but that’s for the admissions officers to determine.</p>

<p>Curious J. It ain’t over till it’s over, but the SAT is a bit lagging. If instate that might help. An outstanding EC also might help. GL</p>

<p>Well I got a 24 on my ACT if that helps. I’m an in state applicant as well. I’ll just keep my fingers crossed and hope for the best. I have other good school options but UCLA is my top 3. :)</p>

<p>^24 ACT? That doesn’t help. lol</p>

<p>It’s pretty good at my school. Considering everything from GPA, to test scores, to school regions, etc., isn’t that what holistic review is for? Why does it have to be all about test scores? To me my test scores are good enough. I tried my best and studied/practiced as hard as I can, I didn’t just blow them off like CST’s. :slight_smile: I just wish colleges thought like that. lol</p>

<p>Holistic review does not mean that you can have way below average test scores/GPA and pray to have the same chances as all other applicants. The lack of space simply does not permit for this. It simply means that all factors will be taken into consideration, INCLUDING test scores. So while it’s “not all about test scores,” test scores can make a huge difference when deciding between applicants. Also, blowing off the CST’s is not something to be proud of. It really hurts your school :(</p>

<p>^ I didn’t say I blew off my CST’s. I did excellent on them. I meant to say that I took the SAT seriously and I tried my best. :)</p>

<p>I know that LA and Berkeley use the sophomore and junior fully (not capped) weighted GPA. Also, all UCs only care about the 10th and 11th year grades, so those are the only pertinent ones when talking about weighted and UW.</p>

<p>At my school, the benchmark for UCLA is a 4.2 fully weighted GPA for the 2nd and 3rd years. I think that’s a good guideline to go by. As for SAT, >2000 is probably a requirement. To have a good chance at LA, I’d say 2100 (ACT 32/33) is a solid score, if not 2200+ (33/34+). SAT can help balance out the GPA to a point, but i’d say anything less than a 4.1 fully weighted 2nd and 3rd year GPA is beyond repair. At a 4.1, a 2200+ SAT, 780 - 800 SAT IIs, and really outstanding ECs can easily swing your application to acceptance. </p>

<p>So to answer your question, no you don’t need a 4.0 UW GPA. However, your 10th and 11th fully weighted GPA should absolutely be above 4.0 for a shot at UCLA. I wouldn’t be surprised if they automatically rejected application with any less.</p>

<p>Well, I wouldn’t say that they would “automatically rejected application with any less” than a 4.0 W GPA. However, if you do not have the GPA or SAT/ACT scores, than you have to have extraordinary extracurriculars, extenuating circumstances/background, or some kind of redeeming factor in your application. As someone mentioned earlier though, UCLA does focus on your academics first and everything else second. You shouldn’t count on your personal statement alone to get you into UCLA.</p>

<p>How do they look at freshman grades and senior schedules?</p>