<p>haha your right... I'm making a HUGE approximation.</p>
<p>I scored in the 93 percentile on the ACT, so I am assuming I will score in the 90th percentile or close to it for the LSAT as well ( HUGE APPROXIMATION). I think the 90th percentile is around a 169?</p>
<p>yeah but i went to lawschoolnumbers.com</p>
<p>I see alot of people that did not to go to a top 20 school and got a high GPA ( probably because of low competition) and a really high LSAT. So I am assuming these people WERE smart, but they just wanted to be the top in the class at a UC/state school than to be in the bottom at U chicago/duke/penn or something of the sort.</p>
<p>Being in the top of your class at a decent state school is not nearly as easy as you think.</p>
<p>I agree with Firebird. Apparantly nobody has an answer, so I messed up applying to such competitive private schools.</p>
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haha your right... I'm making a HUGE approximation.</p>
<p>I scored in the 93 percentile on the ACT, so I am assuming I will score in the 90th percentile or close to it for the LSAT as well ( HUGE APPROXIMATION). I think the 90th percentile is around a 169?
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<p>You're assuming that the people that take the LSAT have the same ability as the ones who take the ACT, which is incorrect. Those who take the LSAT are smarter/better test-taker than the average ACT test-taker because of self-selection. Those who are not relatively smart will take the ACT to go to college, but will not take the LSAT for law school.</p>
<p>wat does the LSAT try to test?</p>
<p>stringa1234 haha! i applied to like 15 private schools... really shouldn't have. Too late to withdraw apps I suppose.. I actually want to go to a UC school now after I found out about all this. I really wanted to go to Uchicago, but it really doesn't matter as much now I suppose.</p>
<p>tests logic, reasoning, analysis... kinda like the reading section on the ACT only MUCH HARDER</p>
<p>I guess people in the midwest and northeast don't have a good public school system like the UC's ( maybe CUNY and SUNY?) so they are so ivy obsessed that they cry when they get rejected from the ivies or northwestern...</p>
<p>I should understand where they are coming from as I have laughed at many of them in the past :( I guess for them prestige matters more...</p>
<p>lol firebird.its starting to sound more and more like an excuse for you to say you didn't care if and when those ivy rejection letters start piling up./</p>
<p>Kirkland</a> & Ellis LLP > Majors, Timothy G.</p>
<p>scroll down and go to the bottom left of the screen...</p>
<p>his underrgad was irvine without any cum laude or summa cum laude... so he wasnt very top in his class... but went to penn law.. these people must have tricks up their sleeves... theres many more of them like it on that site. BTW this is one of the top law branches in the nation.</p>
<p>well i haven't received any decision letters yet... haha if i knew i would be rejected i wouldn't have applied in the first place...? so i guess AFTER i applied i realized i would get rejected from all 15... sounds right i guess...</p>
<p>Firebird - Maybe you should retract your statement about Midwestern public schools. The Big Ten, you may have heard of it, is known for comprising many of the best research universities in the nation. The University of Michigan, Wisconsin, Indiana, Illinois, Iowa, Michigan State, Ohio State, Minnesota, and so on. They are all great public schools. And the entire midwest has like 1.5x the population of California. So, pretty much Cali kids should like the Privates more.</p>
<p>And yes, it is very possible to get into these top grad schools from normal schools. I don't know how you could have not known that. However, as would be expected, top schools show up at much larger rates. If you thought every smart kid in the nation went to an Ivy, then I don't even know what to say.</p>
<p>nope I knew that beforehand... but didn't know grad school admission was essentially test scores + GPA... it is MOSTLY about test scores more so than GPA. So i guess it would make sense to just go to a public school and get a high GPA than go to a top private and pay 50 grand?</p>
<p>Economically, that is the obvious choice, unless money doesn't matter much, or you get big time aid.</p>
<p>However, that ignores the effective differences between the schools.</p>
<p>For many people, yes, the cheap school makes more sense. For others, the private does. For some it is an Honor's College. Another, a merit schollie to make that private cheaper. All types get people, and they do for a reason.</p>
<p>Also, UCLA, UCB, and UCSD are supposed to be more difficult to get good GPA's at than Harvard or Stanford. So don't make the assumption that the standard is easy. Many consider the top schools to consider you good enough, and don't try to 'weed out' as many, and that public's need to weed out people, so they actually are harder.</p>
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nope I knew that beforehand... but didn't know grad school admission was essentially test scores + GPA... it is MOSTLY about test scores more so than GPA. So i guess it would make sense to just go to a public school and get a high GPA than go to a top private and pay 50 grand?
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<p>You mean law schools, not grad schools. For grad schools, test scores have a very minimal impact on admissions. LOR's, research, and GPA are the most important factors. </p>
<p>I have also heard that it's more difficult to get a high GPA at publics than privates.</p>
<p>well if your going to harvard, stanford, northwestern chances are pretty high you wont place very high in your class. If college tests are curved... I'd rather want to be at UCSD than at MIT or dartmouth. I personally think people are too obsessed with prestige when it matters out as much as people make it out to be (especially parents). My statement applies to people that want to attend grad school. and yes... LSAt matters the MOST in law school admission.</p>
<p>Undergrad: iowa state university
GPA: 3.4 ( I kid you not)
LSAT:173 ( very high and above the 92nd percentile)</p>
<p>accepted to the following law schools:
Penn
USC
UCLA
UC berkeley
Northwestern
Georgetown
Duke</p>
<p>John Kerry went to Yale and got a 2.5... went to Boston for law school...</p>
<p>I'd assume that Yale undergrad would take him somewhere better. I mean... its YALE... apparently the low gpa killed him</p>
<p>Firebird, dont blame anyone when you graduate from UC with a 3.4 gpa and a 150 lsat.</p>
<p>?? I dont understand why your being so hostile? I'm just asking for verification, but it seems your just getting annoying cause your attending uchicago... not bashing the school just sayin if one is going to grad school it might make better sense to do better at a lower tier school with less competition and nerds. But that's just me.</p>
<p>To be totally honest, I couldnt care less if you bashed uchicago. Just seems youve made flawed conclusions on how law school admissions work based off anomalies and your own bad logic.But like i said its your choice and you'll either reap the benefits or face the consequences in 4 years.</p>